trump likes cuban cigars

[JCricket]

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37509546

Apparently there is an accusation of trump spending $68000 in 1998 in cuba trying to set up casinoes. If so, in violation of embargo laws...........

[Tom Joad]

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37509546

Apparently there is an accusation of trump spending $68000 in 1998 in cuba trying to set up casinoes. If so, in violation of embargo laws...........

Like I said in another thread, if he did, good for him.

The U.S. Embargo of Cuba has been bullshit from the get-go.

[Rajoo]

Point is that he may have broken some laws, though he may not be alone in this.

[Oerets]

My guess, he feels just like paying taxes following the law is for stupid people. The rich don't get caught very often and when they do little happens in the end. Pay a small fine and move on.

Only the foolish think his companies will be in a blind trust if elected!

Barney

[Tom Joad]

Point is that he may have broken some laws, though he may not be alone in this.

Anyone who breaks the stupid Cuban Embargo laws is a lawbreaker in the tradition of Rosa Parks IMO.

[nailer]

Point is that he may have broken some laws, though he may not be alone in this.

BFD, I've already broken the law today. :)

[Boreas]

BFD, I've already broken the law today. :)

Urinating in public?

[nailer]

Haven't felt the urge to break that one yet. What's it like?

[Boreas]

Haven't felt the urge to break that one yet. What's it like?

Very liberating!

[finnbow]

The U.S. Embargo of Cuba has been bullshit from the get-go.

It may well be, but elderly Cuban-American voters in Florida likely disagree.

[Tom Joad]

It may well be, but elderly Cuban-American voters in Florida likely disagree.

Yeah, and it's way past time we stopped catering to those assholes.

If it was up to me I'd load them all onto a great big ship and send it south towards Cuba.

Then when they got halfway across the straights of Florida I'd sink it with a cruise missile.

[finnbow]

Yeah, and it's way past time we stopped catering to those assholes.

If it was up to me I'd load them all onto a great big ship and send it south towards Cuba.

Then when they got halfway across the straights of Florida I'd sink it with a cruise missile.

You're sounding more and more like a genuine Trumpinista everyday. Congratulations ... or something.:cool:

[JCricket]

I tired to look up the penalty for breaking the embargo laws.

If I understand correctly, the civil penalty is the greater of the double the amount of the transaction or $250,000. The criminal penalty is $1,000,000, or up to 20 years in prison, or both.

this ain't no little matter of shoplifting.

[JCricket]

Yeah, and it's way past time we stopped catering to those assholes.

If it was up to me I'd load them all onto a great big ship and send it south towards Cuba.

Then when they got halfway across the straights of Florida I'd sink it with a cruise missile.

the hell with laws, the hell with lives, the hell with everything that you don't like. You espouse murder and hate. I wonder what would happen if you were treated the way you think?

[Tom Joad]

the hell with laws, the hell with lives, the hell with everything that you don't like. You espouse murder and hate. I wonder what would happen if you were treated the way you think?

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz359/Dog_of_the_Earth/hqdefault.jpg (http://s843.photobucket.com/user/Dog_of_the_Earth/media/hqdefault.jpg.html)

[68custom]

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz359/Dog_of_the_Earth/hqdefault.jpg (http://s843.photobucket.com/user/Dog_of_the_Earth/media/hqdefault.jpg.html)
you got the indignation part right, anyway.

[68custom]

TJ you were much more likable while Bernie was still in the race. I wish he was still in the running too. but duh..get over it!

[Boreas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fdcIwHKd_s

[Tom Joad]

TJ you were much more likable while Bernie was still in the race. I wish he was still in the running too. but duh..get over it!

No, I'm not going to get over it.

I'm out for revenge.

[Rajoo]

BFD, I've already broken the law today. :)

Urinating in public?

Haven't felt the urge to break that one yet. What's it like?

Very liberating!

Why I love this forum, learn something new everyday. :D

Now back to Trump, a person standing for the office of the President of the Younited States cannot be a scofflaw, especially when running against an upstanding citizen like Hillary. After all, what kind of message are we sending to the youth of America whose votes she is desperate for. :rolleyes:

[Rajoo]

No, I'm not going to get over it.

I'm out for revenge.

Way to be, in politics it's not who you are for, it's who you are against that matters.
Look how well the GOP has done opposing Obama. :mad:

[Tom Joad]

Way to be, in politics it's not who you are for, it's who you are against that matters.
Look how well the GOP has done opposing Obama. :mad:

I was for Bernie Sanders.

But that dream got shat upon.

So now, I just want some payback.

[Dondilion]

It may well be, but elderly Cuban-American voters in Florida likely disagree.

True they are Repubs and might stay home.


BTW the surging Latin power in Florida seems to be Puerto Ricans. And unfortunately for Trump they are overwhelmingly Democrats.

[JCricket]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dos-hack-newsweek-trump-cuba-embargo-story

newsweek website get attacked after the release of the story

[Boreas]

I was for Bernie Sanders.

But that dream got shat upon.

So now, I just want some payback.

Shit happens
https://willblogforfooddotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/bird-shit-in-hair.jpg
Get Over It

[finnbow]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dos-hack-newsweek-trump-cuba-embargo-story

newsweek website get attacked after the release of the story

Vlad has Trump's back. Trump's election would damage America's status in the world more than anything else Vlad could do.

[Tom Joad]

Shit happens
https://willblogforfooddotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/bird-shit-in-hair.jpg
Get Over It

That would be rewarding Hillary Clinton, DWS, and the DNC for what they did to Bernie. Fuck that. They need to be punished.

[finnbow]

That would be rewarding Hillary Clinton, DWS, and the DNC for what they did to Bernie. Fuck that. They need to be punished.

They did exactly what Reince Preibus only wishes he could have accomplished - keeping someone from outside the party from using populist impulses and rhetoric from stealing the party's nomination. The Democratic Party didn't owe Bernie shit.

[Tom Joad]

They did exactly what Reince Preibus only wishes he could have accomplished - keeping someone from outside the party from using populist impulses and rhetoric from stealing the party's nomination. The Democratic Party didn't owe Bernie shit.

Of course you think that way.

Because you're perfectly happy with the agenda of the ruling class.

I'm not.

[finnbow]

Of course you think that way.

Because you're perfectly happy with the agenda of the ruling class.

I'm not.

Your use of the term "ruling class" implies that everybody in government, regardless of party, is part of a grand conspiracy to deprive you of something. Given the amount of dysfunction and polarization in the country, that's a profoundly stupid charge.

No feckin' wonder you support the fascist prick who says he can fix everything through the power of his will. You believe in both a ridiculous grand conspiracy as well as the Trump's hocus-pocus.

[Dondilion]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/dos-hack-newsweek-trump-cuba-embargo-story

newsweek website get attacked after the release of the story

Newsweek is just not credible re Russia.

[Pio1980]

Newsweek is just not credible re Russia.

What independent news source is?

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[Dondilion]

What independent news source is?

Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

Newsweek is just horrible.

If Obama had yield to the regular rubbish from Newsweek WW111 would taken place.

[finnbow]

Newsweek is just not credible re Russia.

Russia is also not credible re Russia.

[Dondilion]

Russia is also not credible re Russia.

While some try mightily to have us focus on a weak Russia, China is eating our lunch.

[Rajoo]

While some try mightily to have us focus on a weak Russia, China is eating our lunch.

We have power over China, but not so with Russia.
If the US$ weakens, China will be declaring bankruptcy. :D

[Dondilion]

We have power over China, but not so with Russia.
If the US$ weakens, China will be declaring bankruptcy. :D

Shit! We use our power over China to execute this massive scientific/technological transfer to a potential enemy;
and to hollow out our manufacturing sector. Some power.

A pity--Trump has the THEMES but he is a poor messenger with his load of baggage.

Russia GDP is about that of Italy. It is time we put Russia in perspective.

Try to find a made in Russia product in your store.

The present Russian excitation is instigated and maintained by:
Cold war campaigners. eg Nuland, McCain, Breedlove.

Embittered Russian, overseas, disenfranchised oligarch community in conjunction with George Soros.
These have great connections in Western governments and media.

The MIC and its fellow travelers.

Russian actions are largely reactive and with the exception of Syria take
place on its periphery. It is not a communist state and it is anti-jihadist.
However its greatest sin is that it did allow the Soros clique in tandem with the IMF to play ball inside Russia for long.

I believe over time Obama understood the Russian picture and resisted
the Newsweeks and the CNNs inside his administration.

[finnbow]

...Russian actions are largely reactive and with the exception of Syria take place on its periphery. It is not a communist state and it is anti-jihadist. However its greatest sin is that it did allow the Soros clique in tandem with the IMF to play ball inside Russia for long.

Tell that to the people on the receiving end of thermobaric bombs in Aleppo or the families of those passengers on MH 17. Jeez.

[Dondilion]

Tell that to the people on the receiving end of thermobaric bombs in Aleppo or the families of those passengers on MH 17. Jeez.

Yeah the head choppers would like free access to Damascus.

Just ask why the minorities stick with Assad?

Moderate rebels? :(

[nailer]

Tell that to the people on the receiving end of thermobaric bombs in Aleppo or the families of those passengers on MH 17. Jeez.

Collateral damage happens all the time. If life wasn't such a tragedy we'd have no history.

[merrylander]

Collateral damage happens all the time. If life wasn't such a tragedy we'd have no history.


Is it collateral when they deliberately use bunker busters on hospitals? And the Russians know dam well what they are targeting. We should arm the rebels with shoulder ground to air missiles. Use drones to dump a few Hellfire missiles into ASSad's castle and then tell Vlad to take his embassy and shove it and bring our own people home. These are war crimes of the first order.

[Dondilion]

Is it collateral when they deliberately use bunker busters on hospitals? And the Russians know dam well what they are targeting. We should arm the rebels with shoulder ground to air missiles. Use drones to dump a few Hellfire missiles into ASSad's castle and then tell Vlad to take his embassy and shove it and bring our own people home. These are war crimes of the first order.

Your suggestion makes a lot of sense...give AL NUSTRA ground to air missiles.

[merrylander]

Your suggestion makes a lot of sense...give AL NUSTRA ground to air missiles.

So they have fed you that bullshit too have they. Sorry but at this point I would not believe a single word that comes from that lot. I have nowt against the Russian people, sure Vlad has a high approval rating but with all the folks here who like Trump we are in no position to throw stones. It is clear that they were leading us along with all the diplomatic meetings and that they are messing about in our election. Severing diplomatic relations might just start a trend and Vlad would find he is the pariah we all know him to be.

[Dondilion]

So they have fed you that bullshit too have they. Sorry but at this point I would not believe a single word that comes from that lot. I have nowt against the Russian people, sure Vlad has a high approval rating but with all the folks here who like Trump we are in no position to throw stones. It is clear that they were leading us along with all the diplomatic meetings and that they are messing about in our election. Severing diplomatic relations might just start a trend and Vlad would find he is the pariah we all know him to be.

So why are so many minorities afraid of the head choppers?

The rebels are an amalgam of people who basically hate our guts and you want to give them ground to air missiles.

You want to fuck up our airlines.

[Boreas]

Your suggestion makes a lot of sense...give AL NUSTRA ground to air missiles.

Being the al Qaeda affiliate in Syria, al Nusra would be just as likely to use the missiles against us. Or give them to Daesh with whom they frequently cooperate

[JCricket]

here is the document in question which alleges Trumps involvement with Cuba

[bobabode]

here is the document in question which alleges Trumps involvement with Cuba

That's going to hurt him with older Cuban immigres who detest Castro.

Good.

[JCricket]

I just wish teh justice department would do something about it.

[bobabode]

I just wish teh justice department would do something about it.

I expect his dance card will be full come the New Year. His Trump University racketeering trial in San Diego will be getting the undivided attention of Judge Curiel, whom he slammed for having Mexican heritage even though he was born in Indiana. God forbid he's a sitting president at the time.

[BlueStreak]

urinating in public?

lol! :d

[BlueStreak]

So they have fed you that bullshit too have they. Sorry but at this point I would not believe a single word that comes from that lot. I have nowt against the Russian people, sure Vlad has a high approval rating but with all the folks here who like Trump we are in no position to throw stones. It is clear that they were leading us along with all the diplomatic meetings and that they are messing about in our election. Severing diplomatic relations might just start a trend and Vlad would find he is the pariah we all know him to be.

Rob, do you trust statistics coming out of RUSSIA? I don't, not one single bit. In the words of a Russian (former) co-worker, "Putin is KGB. The popularity of this bastard will ALWAYS be great, even if it is not."............

Americans just don't seem to get that there are governments far more corrupt than our own. Russia is pretty close to the top of that list.

[merrylander]

Being the al Qaeda affiliate in Syria, al Nusra would be just as likely to use the missiles against us. Or give them to Daesh with whom they frequently cooperate

Putin and Lavrov claim that they are bombing Al Nustra. Oh really so when did Al Nustra start recruiting 8 and 10 year old children? Because that is who the bombs are killing. Even younger ones, they dug a two year old out of one of the latest bomb sites. Miraculously he was alive, not so his ten year old sister.

Dondi was dragging a red herring across my post as he seems to favor Putin & Co.

[merrylander]

Rob, do you trust statistics coming out of RUSSIA? I don't, not one single bit. In the words of a Russian (former) co-worker, "Putin is KGB. The popularity of this bastard will ALWAYS be great, even if it is not."............

Americans just don't seem to get that there are governments far more corrupt than our own. Russia is pretty close to the top of that list.

Sorry if I was not clear enough , put it this way; if Putin or Lavrov told me the sum rises in the east I would look for it in the west.

[Dondilion]

We should arm the rebels with shoulder ground to air missiles.

The red herring.

[Rajoo]

Is it collateral when they deliberately use bunker busters on hospitals? And the Russians know dam well what they are targeting. We should arm the rebels with shoulder ground to air missiles. Use drones to dump a few Hellfire missiles into ASSad's castle and then tell Vlad to take his embassy and shove it and bring our own people home. These are war crimes of the first order.

+1, I will bet Malaysia will happily finance a few of those.

The red herring.

Why?

[Boreas]

Putin and Lavrov claim that they are bombing Al Nustra. Oh really so when did Al Nustra start recruiting 8 and 10 year old children? Because that is who the bombs are killing. Even younger ones, they dug a two year old out of one of the latest bomb sites. Miraculously he was alive, not so his ten year old sister.

Dondi was dragging a red herring across my post as he seems to favor Putin & Co.

So, al Nusra have no need of missiles if the Russians and Syrians aren't really bombing them.

The fact remains that your idea of arming al Nusra is a profoundly bad idea. That was my point.

[merrylander]

So, al Nusra have no need of missiles if the Russians and Syrians aren't really bombing them.

The fact remains that your idea of arming al Nusra is a profoundly bad idea. That was my point.

John that was Dondi's interpretation not mine, I never said arm Al Nusra. Is anyone in this group at all familiar with the English language?

[Dondilion]

John that was Dondi's interpretation not mine, I never said arm Al Nusra. Is anyone in this group at all familiar with the English language?

"Arm the rebels" implies arming Al Nusra also since Al Nusra is a substantive part of the rebel force especially in Northern Aleppo.

Still, Nusra has taken away weapons (even US TOW) from US associated rebels.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front

[merrylander]

"Arm the rebels" implies arming Al Nusra also since Al Nusra is a substantive part of the rebel force especially in Northern Aleppo.

Still, Nusra has taken away weapons (even US TOW) from US associated rebels.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front

Sorry but as you may have noticed I rarely infer but rather say what I mean.

[Boreas]

John that was Dondi's interpretation not mine, I never said arm Al Nusra. Is anyone in this group at all familiar with the English language?

I know.

[BlueStreak]

The red herring.

We should arm then with.......A HERRING?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DopGxUAoAY