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barbara
12-13-2016, 09:38 AM
From a sociological point of view, this article is very factual. If this is the dynamic in the Trump household.... We will probably never know.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/melania-trumps-anti-bullying-crusade-170000177.html?client=safari

Tom Joad
12-13-2016, 10:06 AM
What about all the bullying that is being perpetrated by the Hillary supporters?

When is that going to stop?

whell
12-13-2016, 10:10 AM
We need to move this one over the the "Fake News" thread.

finnbow
12-13-2016, 10:17 AM
We need to move this one over the the "Fake News" thread.

What's fake about Melania saying that online bullying is going to be her pet issue at the same time that der Trumpenfuhrer has made online bullying part of his daily routine (other that it's inconvenient to point out Melania's hypocrisy)?

Rajoo
12-13-2016, 10:21 AM
Probably why she does not want to move to Washington DC and start a turf war with The Donald. :D

donquixote99
12-13-2016, 10:43 AM
Probably why she does not want to go to Washington DC and spend time any where near The Donald.

Rajoo
12-13-2016, 10:57 AM
We already know that Ivanka will be the First Lady, Trump has already expressed this IIRC.

MrPots
12-13-2016, 11:39 AM
I think "lady" might be stretching it a bit.

Rajoo
12-13-2016, 11:48 AM
I think "lady" might be stretching it a bit.

How about First Hottie, using Trump's own words? :D

finnbow
12-13-2016, 12:23 PM
Her pet project is akin to Eva Braun having made a pet project of stopping anti-Semitism.:eek:

MrPots
12-13-2016, 12:26 PM
How about First Hottie, using Trump's own words? :D

Trump can pass her around at the G8 summit to gain favor......

She can play cum catcher to all the old rich guys.

Tom Joad
12-13-2016, 12:33 PM
Her pet project is akin to Eva Braun having made a pet project of stopping anti-Semitism.:eek:

Trump can pass her around at the G8 summit to gain favor......

She can play cum catcher to all the old rich guys.

I found it pretty damned offensive when the Republicans trashed Michele Obama, but you dudes are proving that the Democrats can be just as disgusting or even more so.

MrPots
12-13-2016, 12:36 PM
I found it pretty damned offensive when the Republicans trashed Michele Obama, but you dudes are proving that the Democrats can be just as disgusting or even more so.
Heh, she's the first potential first "lady...LOL" who is both a gold digger and porn model.

Deal with it.

Tom Joad
12-13-2016, 12:38 PM
Heh, she's the first potential first "lady...LOL" who is both a gold digger and porn model.

Deal with it.

I've had my happy face on ever since Trump won.

Hows that for dealing with it? :)

JJIII
12-13-2016, 12:53 PM
Trump can pass her around at the G8 summit to gain favor......

She can play cum catcher to all the old rich guys.

Nice! :(

Rajoo
12-13-2016, 12:56 PM
Heh, she's the first potential first "lady...LOL" who is both a gold digger and porn model.

Deal with it.

After her GQ spread, calling her the First Lady is rather a tall order. ;)

Rajoo
12-13-2016, 12:57 PM
Nice! :(

Have you read about the 'ape on heels' comment by a wingnut government official?

finnbow
12-13-2016, 01:08 PM
I found it pretty damned offensive when the Republicans trashed Michele Obama, but you dudes are proving that the Democrats can be just as disgusting or even more so.

I didn't trash her. I just said her pet project of online bullying makes about as much sense as an Eva Braun pet project on anti-Semitism (i.e., it strongly contradicts the actions of their husbands). I have nothing against Melania other than she should have known how ridiculous it looks to have this as a pet project.

Tom Joad
12-13-2016, 01:16 PM
I didn't trash her. I just said her pet project of online bullying makes about as much sense as an Eva Braun pet project on anti-Semitism (i.e., it strongly contradicts the actions of their husbands). I have nothing against Melania other than she should have known how ridiculous it looks to have this as a pet project.

Potter insulted her moral character, you insulted her intelligence.

So let's see, what kind of woman would I prefer?

A smart slut?

Or a dumb prude?

I'll go with smart slut any day.

So your insult was worse.:)

finnbow
12-13-2016, 01:25 PM
Potter insulted her moral character, you insulted her intelligence.

Nope. She insulted mine.

barbara
12-13-2016, 01:26 PM
As far as the article goes..... Every time I have seen Melanie on TV... Her participation looks so forced and she looks unhappy. I have no way of knowing if she is as unhappy as she looks, but the article did make the leap to possible bullying at home.

The fact that she fits the profile of a bullied wife and he fits the profile of a bully gives one the impression the article could be on to something.

finnbow
12-13-2016, 01:29 PM
As far as the article goes..... Every time I have seen Melanie on TV... Her participation looks so forced and she looks unhappy. I have no way of knowing if she is as unhappy as she looks, but the article did make the leap to possible bullying at home.

The fact that she fits the profile of a bullied wife and he fits the profile of a bully gives one the impression the article could be on to something.

Yeh, but she gave a great convention speech.;)

Tom Joad
12-13-2016, 01:33 PM
The fact that she fits the profile of a bullied wife and he fits the profile of a bully gives one the impression the article could be on to something.

So now you're an expert on the Trump family home life.

What did you do?

Hack into their nanny cams?:rolleyes:

JJIII
12-13-2016, 02:58 PM
Have you read about the 'ape on heels' comment by a wingnut government official?

Neither justifies the other. Neither exhibits much class.

Just my opinion.

donquixote99
12-13-2016, 03:14 PM
I believe Melanie is a victim of psychological abuse and deserves our sympathy, not any level of derision. Both her decision to wear a 'pussy bow' blouse to the debate, and her choice of a 'special concern' cause, strike me as passive aggression against her abuser.

Tom Joad
12-13-2016, 03:37 PM
Nope. She insulted mine.

Trying to insult your intelligence would be like trying to divide by zero.

Tom Joad
12-13-2016, 03:50 PM
I believe Melanie is a victim of psychological abuse and deserves our sympathy, not any level of derision. Both her decision to wear a 'pussy bow' blouse to the debate, and her choice of a 'special concern' cause, strike me as passive aggression against her abuser.

Jesus Fucking Christ, it was a blouse dude, not a dog collar and a leash. :rolleyes:

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz359/Dog_of_the_Earth/GothRP2201_468x665.jpg (http://s843.photobucket.com/user/Dog_of_the_Earth/media/GothRP2201_468x665.jpg.html)

finnbow
12-13-2016, 03:57 PM
Trying to insult your intelligence would be like trying to divide by zero.

Whether you know it or not, you just characterized my intelligence as infinite. :cool:

MrPots
12-13-2016, 04:07 PM
Neither justifies the other. Neither exhibits much class.

Just my opinion.

I apologize if I offended you.

I rather find it offensive that such a woman will soon be first "lady". But then I find gold diggers offensive, male or female.

donquixote99
12-13-2016, 04:19 PM
Jesus Fucking Christ, it was a blouse dude, not a dog collar and a leash. :rolleyes:

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz359/Dog_of_the_Earth/GothRP2201_468x665.jpg (http://s843.photobucket.com/user/Dog_of_the_Earth/media/GothRP2201_468x665.jpg.html)

Sure. You cussing and a salacious misogynist pic mean I'm wrong.

It was a blouse of a particular style with a particular name.

And what are you yelling about? You sure get upset easy.

Rajoo
12-13-2016, 04:21 PM
TJ deserves our sympathy too, it's not very easy to defend Trump or his actions. :)

barbara
12-13-2016, 04:22 PM
I believe Melanie is a victim of psychological abuse and deserves our sympathy, not any level of derision. Both her decision to wear a 'pussy bow' blouse to the debate, and her choice of a 'special concern' cause, strike me as passive aggression against her abuser.



Yes, I hear what you are saying.... And to an observer, it does appear she is using passive aggressive behavior.

Having been a model, she would have known about the pussy bow and choosing bullying as her issue to advocate against is all too obvious.

Tom Joad
12-13-2016, 05:31 PM
Sure. You cussing and a salacious misogynist pic mean I'm wrong.

It was a blouse of a particular style with a particular name.

And what are you yelling about? You sure get upset easy.

Sorry, I forgot my happy face.

My bad.:)

Tom Joad
12-13-2016, 05:41 PM
Well as long as we are engaging in remote psychoanalysis, I'll go ahead and give it a shot myself.

It is my opinion that every Hillarybot on this forum has been driven BATSHIT CRAZY by Trump's lection.

How's that? :)

finnbow
12-13-2016, 05:54 PM
Well as long as we are engaging in remote psychoanalysis, I'll go ahead and give it a shot myself.

It is my opinion that every Hillarybot on this forum has been driven BATSHIT CRAZY by Trump's lection.

How's that? :)

I didn't vote for Hillary, but nobody has gone as batshit crazy as you, though Whell is trying to give you a run for your money.;) He's gone full Limbaugh parrot.

donquixote99
12-13-2016, 06:01 PM
It is my opinion ....

How's that? :)

Some opinions are utterly worthless.

Wasillaguy
12-14-2016, 01:45 AM
Some opinions are utterly worthless.

Another self admission of guilt combined with the crime itself, brought to you by Captain Obvious

JJIII
12-14-2016, 05:12 AM
I apologize if I offended you.

I rather find it offensive that such a woman will soon be first "lady". But then I find gold diggers offensive, male or female.

We're good!

nailer
12-14-2016, 10:34 AM
Whether you know it or not, you just characterized my intelligence as infinite. :cool:

Undefined.

Rajoo
12-14-2016, 10:37 AM
Undefined.

Indeterminate. :)

nailer
12-14-2016, 10:44 AM
Indeterminate. :)

Does intelligence have a limit? :cool:

Rajoo
12-14-2016, 10:54 AM
Does intelligence have a limit? :cool:

Yes, since there is always somebody who is smarter and hence it is also indeterminate.

nailer
12-14-2016, 11:02 AM
Yes, since there is always somebody who is smarter and hence it is also indeterminate.

If there is always someone smarter, intelligence would appear to be limitless and for division by zero to be indeterminate there has to be a limit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_by_zero
In ordinary arithmetic, the expression has no meaning, as there is no number which, multiplied by 0, gives a (assuming a≠0), and so division by zero is undefined. Since any number multiplied by zero is zero, the expression 0/0 also has no defined value; when it is the form of a limit, it is an indeterminate form.

Rajoo
12-14-2016, 11:10 AM
If there is always someone smarter, intelligence would appear to be limitless and for division by zero to be indeterminate there has to be a limit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_by_zero
In ordinary arithmetic, the expression has no meaning, as there is no number which, multiplied by 0, gives a (assuming a≠0), and so division by zero is undefined. Since any number multiplied by zero is zero, the expression 0/0 also has no defined value; when it is the form of a limit, it is an indeterminate form.

Will argue this later since $ calls.

Tom Joad
12-14-2016, 06:02 PM
Will argue this later since $ calls.

I might be wrong.

I'm going on my memory from Mr. Mansers Algebra Class in the 8th grade.

He would start every test or quiz off with the same 3 part question.

1/0 = ?
0/0 = ?
0/1= ?

And the three answers that he was looking for were.

0
Any number
Impossible

I was shooting for the "impossible" option. But it's been a long time since 1961 and I forget which answer went with which one. And being the utterly useless a piece of information that this is, I haven't had occasion to revisit it since then.

Truth is 98% of my attention in that class was directed at a chick named Cecilia. She used to wear these really cool tartan plaid skirts with these classy blouses that looked like oxford shirts and she had shoulder length ash blonde hair and brown eyes and a pretty pale white complexion.

Funny how you can remember some things in such extraordinary detail and others, not so much. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5_QV97eYqM

d-ray657
12-14-2016, 07:17 PM
We need to move this one over the the "Fake News" thread.

It appears that the fake news meme has become the current favorite of the right. I was at a county commission meeting today and one a the commissioners (a tea party proponent) concluded that because a news story was critical of him, it was fake news. :rolleyes:

Rajoo
12-15-2016, 12:44 AM
I might be wrong.

I'm going on my memory from Mr. Mansers Algebra Class in the 8th grade.

He would start every test or quiz off with the same 3 part question.

1/0 = ?
0/0 = ?
0/1= ?

And the three answers that he was looking for were.

0
Any number
Impossible

I was shooting for the "impossible" option. But it's been a long time since 1961 and I forget which answer went with which one. And being the utterly useless a piece of information that this is, I haven't had occasion to revisit it since then.

Truth is 98% of my attention in that class was directed at a chick named Cecilia. She used to wear these really cool tartan plaid skirts with these classy blouses that looked like oxford shirts and she had shoulder length ash blonde hair and brown eyes and a pretty pale white complexion.

Funny how you can remember some things in such extraordinary detail and others, not so much. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5_QV97eYqM

Zero is an undefined number, so any operation with a zero or on a zero is undefined.

So 1/0 & 0/0 = undefined.

0/1 or 0*1 is commonly answered as zero by calculators though the operation is still undefinable.

Rajoo
12-15-2016, 12:52 AM
If there is always someone smarter, intelligence would appear to be limitless and for division by zero to be indeterminate there has to be a limit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_by_zero
In ordinary arithmetic, the expression has no meaning, as there is no number which, multiplied by 0, gives a (assuming a≠0), and so division by zero is undefined. Since any number multiplied by zero is zero, the expression 0/0 also has no defined value; when it is the form of a limit, it is an indeterminate form.

I will argue this in reverse. Is there a person in this world that knows everything and can figure out everything? No and thus there has to be a limit to human intelligence since there will always be some unknown.

As to your second point, there is a limit but you will never get there since one can always come up with a number smaller. So one approaches zero without ever getting there. Thus the term infinitesimally small or large if divided by "zero'.

Tom Joad
12-15-2016, 10:02 AM
Zero is an undefined number, so any operation with a zero or on a zero is undefined.

So 1/0 & 0/0 = undefined.

0/1 or 0*1 is commonly answered as zero by calculators though the operation is still undefinable.

So Old Man Manser taught us wrong?

Not surprising.

Most days he just come in and assign us a bunch of problems to work out of the text book.

Then he's sit down behind his desk, slouch way down in his chair and go to sleep. He'd put his elbow down on the desk and prop his head up with his palm on his forehead in a way so that he would be pulling on the skin above his eye to hold it open so that he would look like he was awake and watching us. It was fucking hilarious. :)

nailer
12-15-2016, 10:24 AM
I will argue this in reverse. Is there a person in this world that knows everything and can figure out everything? No and thus there has to be a limit to human intelligence since there will always be some unknown.

As to your second point, there is a limit but you will never get there since one can always come up with a number smaller. So one approaches zero without ever getting there. Thus the term infinitesimally small or large if divided by "zero'.

Your first point is an assumption. Your second point is off topic in that we aren't talking about intelligence approaching zero.

And it's good to know you know that division by zero is undefined.