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bobabode
01-18-2017, 04:00 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/01/18/u-s-scientists-officially-declare-2016-the-hottest-year-on-record-that-makes-three-in-a-row/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_heat-1045am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.84192d5a3de7

"In a powerful testament to the warming of the planet, two leading U.S. science agencies Wednesday jointly declared 2016 the hottest year on record, surpassing the previous record set just last year — which, itself, had topped a record set in 2014.
Average surface temperatures in 2016, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, were 0.07 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than 2015 and featured eight successive months (January through August) that were individually the warmest since the agency’s records began in 1880.
The average temperature across the world’s land and ocean surfaces was 58.69 Fahrenheit, or 1.69 degrees above the 20th century average of 57 degrees, NOAA declared. The agency also noted that the record for the global temperature has now successively been broken five times since the year 2000. The years 2005 and 2010 were also record warm years, according to the agency’s dataset.
[Scientists react to Earth’s warmest year: ‘We are heading into a new unknown’]
NASA concurred with NOAA, also declaring 2016 the warmest year on record in its own dataset that tracks the temperatures at the surface of the planet’s land and oceans, and expressing “greater than 95 percent certainty” in that conclusion. (In contrast, NOAA gave a 62 percent confidence in the broken record.)
NASA actually found a bigger leap upward of temperatures in 2016, measuring the year as .22 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than the prior record year of 2015. The agency also noted that just since the year 2001, the planet has seen “16 of the 17 warmest years on record.”"WaPo

I hope we will wake the f**k up and do something about this but seeing as the science deniers are in the driver's seat, I have scant hope. :(

68custom
01-19-2017, 10:06 AM
unfortunately with the trumpkins running the ship "clean coal" and thirsty SUVs are gonna be belching out toxic waste in near record amounts for the foreseeable future. These guys have the attitude that money will fix everything, money in their pocket that is...

Oerets
01-19-2017, 10:22 AM
I think it is already to late.

High of 56* today rain and tomorrow a high of 65*. Not typical for January of just a few years ago. About 30* warmer!!



Barney

sheltiedave
01-23-2017, 04:32 PM
And the Repubs' answer to this? They want NASA to butt out of the climate business.

Tom Joad
01-23-2017, 06:43 PM
I think it is already to late.

You're right.

We're fucked.

nailer
01-24-2017, 01:42 PM
Top down day today. :)

ebacon
01-24-2017, 09:39 PM
The climate deniers will never get it. Not even while trying to enjoy an outside meal while cars roar by and loft dust onto their food. They will just raise their voices louder to explain that we need more jobs.

It's a maddening cycle.

Oerets
01-25-2017, 04:48 AM
I have begun to believe, the power behind denial is the subconscious knowledge it is already to late. So just enjoy the ride left while you can in ignorant bliss!



Barney

Rajoo
01-25-2017, 11:16 AM
Wow, simply amazing the bravery of some people to confront tyranny. I know that this group is not every ones favorite and their activism at times is over the top.

7 Greenpeace protesters unfurl 'Resist' banner atop crane near White House

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/936241192bc584a250da23af491e76300719fb08/c=209-0-4498-3225&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/2017/01/25/USATODAY/USATODAY/636209387624847639-AFP-AFP-KR0J8.jpg

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/25/7-greenpeace-protesters-unfurl-resist-banner-atop-crane-near-white-house/97034816/

So Trump to issue an EO to outlaw construction cranes in DC? :)

bobabode
01-25-2017, 11:20 AM
Wow, simply amazing the bravery of some people to confront tyranny. I know that this group is not every ones favorite and their activism at times is over the top.

7 Greenpeace protesters unfurl 'Resist' banner atop crane near White House

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/936241192bc584a250da23af491e76300719fb08/c=209-0-4498-3225&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/2017/01/25/USATODAY/USATODAY/636209387624847639-AFP-AFP-KR0J8.jpg

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/25/7-greenpeace-protesters-unfurl-resist-banner-atop-crane-near-white-house/97034816/

So Trump to issue an EO to outlaw construction cranes in DC? :)

He will order them shot and their family's homes bulldozed.

ebacon
01-26-2017, 04:05 PM
I have begun to believe, the power behind denial is the subconscious knowledge it is already to late. So just enjoy the ride left while you can in ignorant bliss!



Barney

I'm afraid of that. That's why I have never been a joyrider :D

From the feeling standpoint, the philosophy standpoint, it can zero down to smugness upon reading that the philosopher stands in a doorway during the storm, collar up.

For me there is more of an engineering urgency to the dance. The book Happy City mentions a sobering comparison. If everyone on earth lived like Americans it would take 9 earths to support us all. If everyone on earth lived like Parisians it would take 3 earths to support us all.

We only have one earth.

JJIII
01-27-2017, 05:25 AM
I'm afraid of that. That's why I have never been a joyrider :D

From the feeling standpoint, the philosophy standpoint, it can zero down to smugness upon reading that the philosopher stands in a doorway during the storm, collar up.

For me there is more of an engineering urgency to the dance. The book Happy City mentions a sobering comparison. If everyone on earth lived like Americans it would take 9 earths to support us all. If everyone on earth lived like Parisians it would take 3 earths to support us all.

We only have one earth.

Kinda like this?

http://lh5.ggpht.com/-9nkGXFaRp1Y/VGYWDmzcC6I/AAAAAAAA860/LWfV4754bbI/la-jument-5%25255B9%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800

:D

Tom Joad
02-14-2017, 03:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxqVHNFRx6U

Tom Joad
02-21-2017, 12:35 PM
A new warning has come to NASA from the Inuits.

They are warning that the change in climate is not due to global warming but rather, because of the Earth shifting a bit.

The Inuits are local people that live in the Arctic regions of Canada, the United States and Greenland.

They are excellent weather forecasters and so were their ancestors.

Presently they are warning NASA that the cause of change in weather, earthquakes etc, are not due to global warming as the world thinks.

They state that the earth has shifted or “wobbled”. “Their sky has changed!”


http://nativespress.com/2017/02/08/earth-has-shifted-inuit-elders-issue-warning-to-nasa-and-the-world-video/#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNhK67GftDk

donquixote99
02-21-2017, 12:48 PM
If true, NASA would have known already.

Tom Joad
02-21-2017, 01:17 PM
If true, NASA would have known already.

That's what I think.

But it was an interesting story.

Plus I have that fascination and awe of all things Native American that is so common amongst us white folks.

So the logical side of my brain says it's bullshit, while the other whadacallit side wants to buy into it.

Oerets
02-21-2017, 01:36 PM
My first generation never updated Tom Tom would be sending me to the wrong addresses.

So far it been working.....


Barney

MrPots
02-21-2017, 02:07 PM
If true, NASA would have known already.

If it's shifting off it's axis wouldn't gps data change?

nailer
02-21-2017, 02:28 PM
If it's shifting off it's axis wouldn't gps data change?

Not if there was a corresppnding shift in the system's satellites.

donquixote99
02-21-2017, 04:08 PM
Astronemers would know instantly. It would change where everything is, relative to viewpoints on the earth.

Anyone who still 'shoots the sun' to navigate would find things were off.

Tom Joad
02-21-2017, 04:34 PM
Astronemers would know instantly. It would change where everything is, relative to viewpoints on the earth.

Anyone who still 'shoots the sun' to navigate would find things were off.

I don't care what you say, Indians know stuff that us white people don't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH3YTWRxhkg

barbara
02-21-2017, 04:57 PM
You totally blew it, TJ.

The best line in that movie was, "you had a vision!?"

donquixote99
02-21-2017, 05:11 PM
Eh. Missed that one. I'll have to get it.

Tom Joad
02-22-2017, 09:49 AM
You totally blew it, TJ.

The best line in that movie was, "you had a vision!?"

I disagree. It was a good one but my favorite is still "63 cents". :)

Followed by "I don't need no radar, I listened to the wind"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAKoB3Ll7jI

FYI, here's a clip of the Vision thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJXQPY80ytE

nailer
02-22-2017, 09:57 AM
I disagree. It was a good one but my favorite is still "63 cents". :)

Followed by "I don't need no radar, I listened to the wind"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAKoB3Ll7jI

FYI, here's a clip of the Vision thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJXQPY80ytE

And your YouTube was right on point, as they usually are.

BTW, think I've figured out what your problem is. You've multiple personality disorder. :cool:

Tom Joad
02-22-2017, 10:10 AM
And your YouTube was right on point, as they usually are.

BTW, think I've figured out what your problem is. You've multiple personality disorder. :cool:


I'm a complex guy. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1JwDKtxwO4

nailer
02-22-2017, 10:38 AM
I'm a complex guy. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1JwDKtxwO4

The brunette whose question opens the clip is sooooo hot. The only times I watched that show was when she was prominently on screen. When she was gone the remote was clicked.

Tom Joad
02-22-2017, 11:37 AM
The brunette whose question opens the clip is sooooo hot. The only times I watched that show was when she was prominently on screen. When she was gone the remote was clicked.

She's very hot.

But I like Elizabeth Mitchel better.

She played "Juliette" in Lost.

Elizabeth Mitchel is absolute perfection to me.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0593310/

Tom Joad
02-22-2017, 12:08 PM
And your YouTube was right on point, as they usually are.

Youtube is awesome.

And it's growing all the time.

Eventually I hope to get to the point where I don't have type anything.

All of my posts will consist of YouTube links.

All youtube, all the time. :D

barbara
02-22-2017, 01:19 PM
What was the name of that movie? I can't remember.

nailer
02-22-2017, 01:46 PM
What was the name of that movie? I can't remember.

Thunderheart.

barbara
02-22-2017, 05:00 PM
Thanks

nailer
02-22-2017, 05:59 PM
Thanks

Your welcome.

bobabode
06-30-2022, 06:14 PM
The Big Melt - Archaeology Institute of America

'The race to find, and save, ancient artifacts emerging from glaciers and ice patches in a warming world'

"The Lendbreen ice patch is located high in the mountains of southern Norway, in a range that runs like a spine through Scandinavia. In the 1800s, the area was dubbed the Jotunheim Mountains, or the home of the jötnar, the rock and frost giants of Norse mythology. Its peaks are the highest in northern Europe and are snowbound year-round.



The summer of 2006 was unusually warm in the Jotunheim Mountains, with temperatures high enough to melt not just the previous winter’s snow, but also layers of ice beneath, representing thousands of past winters. One day, a woodworker and hobby archaeologist from the nearby town of Lom, in Oppland County, came across a well-preserved leather shoe while hiking near Lendbreen. He carried it back to town and turned it over to curators at the Norwegian Mountain Museum. When archaeologists examined it, they were stunned. It wasn’t a modern shoe, but one that was last worn in the Bronze Age, some 3,400 years ago.



It turned out that the conditions at Lendbreen had long been perfect for preserving such ancient artifacts. Objects left on the surface ages ago were covered with snow that eventually compacted to ice, shielding them from decay and disturbance for thousands of years. But the summer of 2006 was warm enough to melt this protective shell, exposing the shoe. The archaeologists wondered, could there be more ancient artifacts hidden in various ice patches? Perhaps more importantly, were some of these artifacts now at risk from the elements?



The fortuitous discovery of the Bronze Age shoe helped the local heritage management office push for an organized rescue program to locate, assess, and search dozens of sites in the mountains of Oppland. It’s an effort that combines archaeology with high-tech mapping, glaciology, climate science, and history. When conditions are right, it’s as simple as picking the past up off the ground. “The ice is a time machine,” says Lars Pilö, an archaeologist who works for the Oppland County council. “When you’re really lucky, the artifacts are exposed for the first time since they were lost.”



In Scandinavia and beyond, the booming field of glacier and ice patch archaeology represents both an opportunity and a crisis. On one hand, it exposes artifacts and sites that have been preserved in ice for millennia, offering archaeologists a chance to study them. On the other hand, from the moment the ice at such sites melts, the pressure to find, document, and conserve the exposed artifacts is tremendous. “The next 50 years will be decisive,” says Albert Hafner, an archaeologist at the University of Bern who has excavated melting sites in the Alps. “If you don’t do it now they will be lost.”" AIA

Continued here - https://www.archaeology.org/issues/105-1309/letter-from/1165-glaciers-ice-patches-norway-global-warming

Interesting article regarding the effects of global warming on glaciers and the things we humans have lost in snow. Warning sciencey nerd stuff ahead...;)

Rajoo
04-22-2023, 10:03 PM
Read a pictorial on WaPo. Philippines is the source of 30% of oceanic plastic waste. Pictures are mind boggling to comprehend, how a country with under 120 Million people can generate so much plastic waste. Next to internal combustion engines, plastic waste maybe our second biggest global problem since a lot of it winds up in our oceans. Plastics do not biodegrade nor disintegrate and I bet the metalized plastics maybe even a bigger problem. Cannot be incinerated either because they emit toxic gases.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/interactive/2023/philippines-city-swallowed-by-plastic-waste/?itid=hp-top-table-main_p001_f003