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d-ray657
08-31-2017, 08:49 AM
I have spent most of my adult life using computers in one way or another. One of the easiest fixes when a computer locks up has always been ctrl-alt-del. I had never really thought of my car as a computer, but it was inevitable. Yesterday on the way back from lunch, my air conditioner quit working. Apparently the AC is computer controlled - it has a choice of manual operation or thermostat control. My associate suggested that I just needed to reboot to fix the issue. He was right. Got to the parking lot, turned the car off, turned it back on and got cold air.

I wonder how many other things we now use operate like a computer. My TV does. Obviously, most phones do. What else?

68custom
08-31-2017, 09:18 AM
some of the luxuries we are afforded by the purchase of newer cars are offset by the intertwined and often complicated vehicle computers, but what can you do they are not gonna get any less complicated as time moves on. the can-bus system allows the various computers to communicate with each other.

Rajoo
08-31-2017, 12:40 PM
Something similar happened to me also, the doors would not lock after we got out of the car in a public parking lot. Friend I was with suggested that I get back in, restart the car and then turn of the ignition using the ignition key instead of using the keyless feature. It worked.

As for other devices that need rebooting, just about any implement which is microprocessor controlled would be my guess. My Roku 4 reboots by itself frequently and now have a WDTV instead.

d-ray657
08-31-2017, 12:52 PM
Some stereos now operate on a microchip. I imagine those would have to be rebooted sometimes. in manufacturing shops most of the machines are computer operated: the sheer, the brake, the plasma cutting, welding and on and on.

CarlV
08-31-2017, 12:52 PM
I have spent most of my adult life using computers in one way or another. One of the easiest fixes when a computer locks up has always been ctrl-alt-del. I had never really thought of my car as a computer, but it was inevitable. Yesterday on the way back from lunch, my air conditioner quit working. Apparently the AC is computer controlled - it has a choice of manual operation or thermostat control. My associate suggested that I just needed to reboot to fix the issue. He was right. Got to the parking lot, turned the car off, turned it back on and got cold air.

I wonder how many other things we now use operate like a computer. My TV does. Obviously, most phones do. What else?

VW type 3's were using ROM computers in 1968. :)

bobabode
08-31-2017, 01:51 PM
VW type 3's were using ROM computers in 1968. :)

The venerable squareback wagons.

Rajoo
08-31-2017, 04:45 PM
The venerable squareback wagons.

We owned a baby blue VW Squareback 1971, had fuel injected engine!!!
Was a great vehicle except had no A/C which became a bummer in Florida.

icenine
08-31-2017, 05:50 PM
A good idea for a science fiction hero...The Rebootable Man/Woman.

In this novel about system restore the person is rebooted but time is not reset so it does not become a boring time travel cliche; however our hero would be aware of his or her reboot. The downside is you can't change history. The upside is that the hero realizes that rebooting 24 hours or even two years after the previous reboot is a total waste. So the hero waits to reboot when he turns 80 so he/she comes back physically as a 29-year old person, with another 30-50 year life span in front of them! Thus immorality is achieved!

Then the government finds out when the Social Security Administration notices that our
hero is still receiving their social security check at the age of 121.

Then the government takes the reboot secret from our hero, and rations it out to a certain elite. Then a civil war between the boots and the non-boots begins! The government rationalizes the restriction by maintaining that there would not be enough resources like food and water if everyone is given the firmware update. The old Malthusian argument.

JJIII
08-31-2017, 07:05 PM
Whew! That must be some good $#!t! :D

Pio1980
09-01-2017, 09:11 AM
Whew! That must be some good $#!t! :D

I'll have what he's having!

icenine
09-01-2017, 10:33 AM
Or instead of a civil war the rebooted man becomes a TV evangelists, becomes famous,
stages a fake death on TV but before "dying" predicts his return as a messiah 10 years later.

Ten years pass and he is reborn on earth not looking a day older than when he staged his fake death a decade earlier. In another 10 years he does the same thing again only in the meantime having gotten control of the United States and Canada because people think he is God.

He does this for about a century, always returning looking as if he has never aged while he gradually takes over the world.

His only opposition is a small cadre of unbelievers who have caught onto his reboot, but just when they get close the rebooted man disappears for a another decade, while his fanatical followers run and control the world government, which is doing terrible things.

The rebooted man never really dies, but the opposition has to pass on its fight and resources from generation to generation since they are mortal and die. Known as the "Parents and Children of the Light" the opposition, dwindling in numbers because the assassins of the Rebooted Man are killing them off one by one, must find a firmware code so they can reboot one of their own.

icenine
09-01-2017, 10:39 AM
I'll have what he's having!

Actually I am suffering from a really bad gout attack.

So no everclear, vodka, bamboo shoots, chicken wraps or beer for you!
Plus I am having some surgery next week and I can't take motrin or nanaprox for the swelling. The prednisdone does not seem to make the swelling go down.

Pio1980
09-01-2017, 11:00 AM
Actually I am suffering from a really bad gout attack.

So no everclear, vodka, bamboo shoots, chicken wraps or beer for you!
Plus I am having some surgery next week and I can't take motrin or nanaprox for the swelling. The prednisdone does not seem to make the swelling go down.

Well then, no thanx and never mind. I'll keep my osteoarthritis and memory blackouts.

Rajoo
09-01-2017, 11:10 AM
Well then, no thanx and never mind. I'll keep my osteoarthritis and memory blackouts.

You too?
In the middle of a conversation, either not recalling a common word fails me or name of person that I know well. Sucks to be me some times. :)

donquixote99
09-01-2017, 11:44 AM
Blocking on things like that drives me nuts. Last night I wanted to label a parts drawer and couldn't come up with the noun "USB cable."

donquixote99
09-01-2017, 11:49 AM
Actually I am suffering from a really bad gout attack.

So no everclear, vodka, bamboo shoots, chicken wraps or beer for you!
Plus I am having some surgery next week and I can't take motrin or nanaprox for the swelling. The prednisdone does not seem to make the swelling go down.

Commiseration on the gout. It has just about got me off beer, which is actually good in a number of ways....

But chicken wraps??? Not on the gout bad list I wouldn't have thought. Like, they're the good alternative to a 1/2 lb bacon cheeseburger, aren't they?

icenine
09-01-2017, 12:11 PM
Commiseration on the gout. It has just about got me off beer, which is actually good in a number of ways....

But chicken wraps??? Not on the gout bad list I wouldn't have thought. Like, they're the good alternative to a 1/2 lb bacon cheeseburger, aren't they?

I had some rotisserie chicken Friday night in Pacific Beach that was garnished with bamboo sprouts and almost immediately had ankle pain. But it went away by next day. I drank some diluted Everclear and some Vodka that Sat night and nothing happened on Sunday. I stupidly thought two Beers would be better than vodka Sunday night and drank those. I think my uric acid level was high already when I ate a spicy chicken wrap Monday afternoon. My ankle exploded right after that.

barbara
09-01-2017, 01:23 PM
Well then, no thanx and never mind. I'll keep my osteoarthritis and memory blackouts.



I thought those memory blackout only happened to menopausal women. 😉

d-ray657
09-01-2017, 01:43 PM
You too?
In the middle of a conversation, either not recalling a common word fails me or name of person that I know well. Sucks to be me some times. :)

I have been hoping that it is not the onset of Alzheimer's. I tend to pass it off by suggesting that the brain cells I killed in college are the ones that hold names.

donquixote99
09-01-2017, 01:45 PM
I had some rotisserie chicken Friday night in Pacific Beach that was garnished with bamboo sprouts and almost immediately had ankle pain. But it went away by next day. I drank some diluted Everclear and some Vodka that Sat night and nothing happened on Sunday. I stupidly thought two Beers would be better than vodka Sunday night and drank those. I think my uric acid level was high already when I ate a spicy chicken wrap Monday afternoon. My ankle exploded right after that.

I looked again (http://www.arthritis.org/living-with-arthritis/tools-resources/expert-q-a/gout-questions/food-for-gout.php) and chicken ranks right with beef in purines, and turkey is actually worse. I was in a red-meat-bad, white-meat-better mindset. So now I'm smarter. Too bad I just bought a turkey breast. Have to space that stuff out, in small portions....

Your chicken-wrap wasn't deep fried, was it? Very sizeable? Spinach/mushrooms in it? High corn-fructose ranch dressing maybe?

icenine
09-01-2017, 02:01 PM
Huge spicy wrap with skinless chicken with chipotle sauce.

donquixote99
09-01-2017, 04:14 PM
Hmmm--chicken would be the main active ingredient, sounds like. My guess is the uric acid load you already had, and the 'huge' part, might be what did it.

Dondilion
09-01-2017, 04:22 PM
My Roku 4 reboots by itself frequently and now have a WDTV instead.

The rebooting cable box is being replaced by the rebooting Roku. :D

mpholland
09-02-2017, 07:58 AM
Some stereos now operate on a microchip. I imagine those would have to be rebooted sometimes. in manufacturing shops most of the machines are computer operated: the sheer, the brake, the plasma cutting, welding and on and on.

Don't get me going on that one. The laser, brake and punch are all computer controlled in our shop. Reboots are definitely a necessary evil. I can't count the amount of times that a glitch happens that the only cure is to shut it down and restart. Last time I filled up the program library on the brake and it wouldn't operate at all. Of course I had to delete some programs, but do you think it would allow me to delete just a couple? Of course not. I had to erase the whole library before the machine would accept a new program. Wouldn't have been so bad if the machine was tied into the network, but all the programming is done by the operator for each job and there is no method for external storage. Once deleted, you have to start all over.

Delta Flight
09-02-2017, 08:38 AM
LOL

I think there are times that a "Reboot "would help me as well !