What is wrong with America?

[noonereal]

This:

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/20709461/detail.html

Any American who holds his kid out of school or asks their school not to show his address needs to find another country.

This is "our" elected leader.

I am loosing all respect for many of my fellow countrymen.
To make it worse many of the same folks that want to do this portray themselves as "real Americans.
The irony is thick.

[Charles]

"Love it or leave it, let this song that I'm singin' be a warning,

When you're talkin' down my country hoss, you're walkin' on the fightin' side of me."

Chas

[Grumpy]

I love it and not for the reason that everyone probably thinks. OB obliterated McCain in Michigan which has been a nearly 75% democratic state for more years then I have been alive. Irony my friends..

My kids will not be seeing his speech either due to them having a traditional half day that was planned before the election.

[noonereal]

"Love it or leave it, let this song that I'm singin' be a warning,

When you're talkin' down my country hoss, you're walkin' on the fightin' side of me."

Chas

exactly, we had an election now we have a new president respect it or move on

I disliked three presidents in my lifetime (Carter, Clinton and baby Bush) I was never ready to over throw our system to get my way however.

I'll tell you what else is wrong and this goes back. Every time our President gives a speech we have to hear from an unhappy opposite representing the choosing party. Ridiculous. (Yes it was just as ridiculous under Bush as it is under Obie)


How was the BBQ?
couple brews?

[merrylander]

Got to admit that having the opposing view was useful, sure changed my opinion about Bobby Jindal from up and coming to loser.

[merrylander]

Now to the main topic, I love this country warts and all if for no other reason than it gave me Florence, never been so happy in my life.

I suspect that part of what we are seeing abroad in the land is the fault of the media, spreading good news does not sell papers, TV advertising or magazines. I also think Mellon Scaife contributed to this attitude as well when he set about destroying the Clintons. Of course the GOP attitude that they rule by divine right did not help matters a great deal.

The streak of independent self reliance that runs through the romanticization of our history is no real help. If anyone recalls the TV show Gunsmoke and the heroic men and Miss Kitty. In actual fact most of the heroes of the wild west were soulless teen aged killers and the women in the dance halls and taverns were diseased broken down whores.

A visit to Williamsburg in Virginia would be very educational, the wealthy lived quite well but the average person, black or white, lived under conditions that would curl your hair. Church attendance was compulsory and if you were not flat on your back in bed with a fever and did not show up you spent time in the stocks, not the best place at night or in winter.

Life was damned hard and had people not co-operated and worked together it would be a far different country than what you see now.

But as I wrote, warts and all she's a grand old girl and I would not be in a hurry to write her off just yet. The song always sung on the Fourth "God Bless America" I have always considered a prayer, not a statment of fact although she has been blessed from time to time.

[wajobu]

I think that it's remarkable that many of these same folks forget that Reagan and George H. W. Bush did exactly the same thing early in the school years during their terms. These people are blind to so many things and many display an acute lack of understanding of history and facts--they only know what Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh and other mouthpieces feed them...can't think at all for themselves.

[spasmo55]

This:

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/20709461/detail.html

Any American who holds his kid out of school or asks their school not to show his address needs to find another country.

This is "our" elected leader.

I am loosing all respect for many of my fellow countrymen.
To make it worse many of the same folks that want to do this portray themselves as "real Americans.
The irony is thick.

Only the second thread I've read today, and I am in agreement with you twice, damn.

In my early days of school, if JFK was going to be on TV to address us students, my parents would probably have made me wear my best eventhough he could not see me. It would have been perceived as an honor for the pres to talk to us.

As I stated in an earlier post, if you are afraid of a bobblehead on the tube having that much influence on your child, you need to spend more time with them.

With that said, I would disagree with using the term "Leader", and not just in the case of Obama. Words are a powerful tool, and I think the constant use of such a term for our elected "Officials" has changed how we think of them.

Being a "strict constitutionalist", I feel that our "Officials" are supposed to "follow" our wishes, as the "power" is supposed to rest in the hands of the citizens, not the other away around, with the exception of when I was in uniform and the pres was my Commander in Chief.

I sure hope the full moon is the reason for this phenomenon, that way I know it will pass.:rolleyes:

[Charles]

Maybe what's wrong with America now is the same thing that has been wrong with America every since 1776...people just don't agree on everything. Seems that the nation resorted to "politics by other means" back in 1860.

How's that go, if everyone thinks the same, then someone's not thinking.

Chas

[noonereal]

Maybe what's wrong with America now is the same thing that has been wrong with America every since 1776...people just don't agree on everything. Seems that the nation resorted to "politics by other means" back in 1860.

How's that go, if everyone thinks the same, then someone's not thinking.

Chas

Another fine thought on another fine day.

[Charles]

Another fine thought on another fine day.

Thank you Noon, maybe it's because I'm still sober.

BTW, the BBQ was great...other than the fact that my mother brought her dog, "Little Pisser". The rat faced little SOB has a real problem with marking his territory, marked at least ten spots inside of my screened in porch, even snuck into the house and got one of my bar stools.

But it's her dog, and she loves him, so I try to ignore it, other than referring to him as "LP".

We all have to make concessions,

Chas

[noonereal]

Thank you Noon, maybe it's because I'm still sober.

BTW, the BBQ was great...other than the fact that my mother brought her dog, "Little Pisser". The rat faced little SOB has a real problem with marking his territory, marked at least ten spots inside of my screened in porch, even snuck into the house and got one of my bar stools.

But it's her dog, and she loves him, so I try to ignore it, other than referring to him as "LP".

We all have to make concessions,

Chas

I certainly agree with ya' and you probably just answered my question on the thread I just posted. Heck I should have read this first and I could have saved myself all that typing.:rolleyes:

[soundhound]

"Love it or leave it

easy to say, but not practical, nor is it the american way.

i say love it or change it.

[Charles]

easy to say, but not practical, nor is it the american way.

i say love it or change it.

Merle's gonna have his dander up, but he warned ya!!!

Chas

[soundhound]

Merle's gonna have his dander up, but he warned ya!!!

i ain't skeert!:D

[Twodogs]

I hope he goes on TV 100 times a week. It's starting to be real fun watching him self-destruct. I think old Barry is just about done.:)

[Charles]

I hope he goes on TV 100 times a week. It's starting to be real fun watching him self-destruct. I think old Barry is just about done.:)

Too much of a good thing?

Chas

[piece-itpete]

In actual fact most of the heroes of the wild west were soulless teen aged killers and the women in the dance halls and taverns were diseased broken down whores.


Rotflmao!!!

I don't have a problem with Obama and school as long as it's not a blatant ad.

That said any parent has the right to regulate what their child does and doesn't watch. Not the school, President, or the NEA - mom and dad.

Pete

[Bigerik]

If there is one thing I don't get about America, and this may be indicative of what is wrong, is the fact that people are wishing that the president screws up completely and becomes a lame duck. America is a country of two right of centre parties trying to destroy each other and not caring what the cost is to the nation. There really is no active "left wing" or socialist party of import in the US today.

[Fast_Eddie]

If there is one thing I don't get about America, and this may be indicative of what is wrong, is the fact that people are wishing that the president screws up completely and becomes a lame duck. America is a country of two right of centre parties trying to destroy each other and not caring what the cost is to the nation. There really is no active "left wing" or socialist party of import in the US today.

I've thought about this too. It seems odd that "Socialism" is kind of a bad word here. I don't think that's the case in the rest of the world, is it?

[Bigerik]

I've thought about this too. It seems odd that "Socialism" is kind of a bad word here. I don't think that's the case in the rest of the world, is it?

In the rest of the world, Socialism is just viewed as another political viewpoint. Look at European parliaments that really run the gamut from left to right. Unlike America, that has one party that is slightly right of centre and another party that is a lot more right of centre. Maybe that is why things are as screwed up as they are? Their really is no more political dialogue between truly different ideologies anymore. Just two basically similar parties fighting to gain political points.

[Charles]

If there is one thing I don't get about America, and this may be indicative of what is wrong, is the fact that people are wishing that the president screws up completely and becomes a lame duck. America is a country of two right of centre parties trying to destroy each other and not caring what the cost is to the nation. There really is no active "left wing" or socialist party of import in the US today.

Being form the United States, I beg to differ.

IMHO, both parties are socialist, and members of the NWO.

I doubt that you will agree with me, but it's no big deal,

Chas

[Bigerik]

Being form the United States, I beg to differ.

IMHO, both parties are socialist, and members of the NWO.

I doubt that you will agree with me, but it's no big deal,

Chas

Then the word "socialism" means something very different in the US than it does in the rest of the world.

[merrylander]

I've thought about this too. It seems odd that "Socialism" is kind of a bad word here. I don't think that's the case in the rest of the world, is it?


Eddie 99% of the people here would not recognize a socialist if one bit them on the arse.:rolleyes:

[Bigerik]

Eddie 99% of the people here would not recognize a socialist if one bit them on the arse.:rolleyes:

Agreed. Not a chance.

[soundhound]

Eddie 99% of the people here would not recognize a socialist if one bit them on the arse.:rolleyes:

according to merriam/webster:

Main Entry: so·cial·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1837
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done