Smoking bans

[Grumpy]

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/Smoking_Ban_How_It_May_Impact_Business

Yes its quoted from fox but basically the same story is on all the networks.

While many may feel its about time I feel its the gooberment stepping in telling people what to do. And thats wrong.


Smoking Ban: How It May Impact Business

Updated: Friday, 11 Dec 2009, 10:57 PM EST
Published : Friday, 11 Dec 2009, 6:31 PM EST
By BILL GALLAGHER
myFOXDetroit.com


ROYAL OAK, Mich. (myFOXDetroit.com) - Michigan's smoking ban goes into effect May first, and some business owners are already dreading the change. However, it might not be all bad.


Smoking in restaurants and bars in Michigan will be banned come next May. Casino floors and cigar bars will be exempted.


Smoking bans in other places should comfort bar and restaurant owners worried about losing business.


"Research has shown time and time again in (states), cities, countries, counties that have smoke free laws that there has been no negative impact. The reality is the majority of people don't smoke and will go out more often and stay out longer," said Judy Stewart with the American Cancer Society.


Nello's restaurant voluntarily banned smoking six years ago.
"It was the best decision I ever made for my business," said owner Dino Drosis. We asked him what he would say to others who are afraid they may lose business with a smoking ban. He answered, "I don't think they're going to lose any business. I think, in the long run, they will gain."
Customers have mixed feelings about the forced smoking restrictions.

[Boreas]

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/Smoking_Ban_How_It_May_Impact_Business

Yes its quoted from fox but basically the same story is on all the networks.

While many may feel its about time I feel its the gooberment stepping in telling people what to do. And thats wrong.


This is very old news in some parts of the country, long enough to establish whether there are any adverse effects on society, economic or otherwise. There aren't any. The adverse effects of second hand smoke are also well established so I want the "gooberment" telling people that it's not okay to poison other people.

John

[Grumpy]

So the millions of drunk drivers killing themselves and others are OK ?

[Boreas]

So the millions of drunk drivers killing themselves and others are OK ?

No, that's illegal too.

[Grumpy]

Then why does the gov not step in to do something other then pass laws that still allow people to die.

Look if they want to outlaw smokes then do it completely. They cannot because they are not willing to lose the cigarette tax. That makes them hypocrites.

[Boreas]

Then why does the gov not step in to do something other then pass laws that still allow people to die.

Look if they want to outlaw smokes then do it completely. They cannot because they are not willing to lose the cigarette tax. That makes them hypocrites.

You ask good questions but would you prefer that the laws that exist were repealed, leaving nothing in their place, because they didn't completely eliminate the problem?

John

[BlueStreak]

We don't have a total smoking ban here in VA, but restaurants have the legal right to ban smoking if they choose to do so, and most do. Even the smokers I know have gotten used to it and don't consider it to be a big deal anymore.
A smoker friend of mine recently told me, "I smoke. But if I can't go a half hour/fourty five minutes without a cigarette, then I know I have a serious problem."

Restaurant owners have found it to be a plus, because the smokers still come anyways and more non-smokers come---more customers, not less.

[noonereal]

Here in NY it is indeed very old news. Frankly I think the ban is inappropriate. As long as patrons and workers are aware that a bar or restaurant allows smoking why on earth should it be disallowed?

For the record I do not smoke and find second hand smoke repulsive.

BTW,a cigar after dinner is not smoking :D

[Charles]

Then why does the gov not step in to do something other then pass laws that still allow people to die.

Look if they want to outlaw smokes then do it completely. They cannot because they are not willing to lose the cigarette tax. That makes them hypocrites.

Revenue enhancement and behavior control. Also unfair to overtax a certain percentage of the population, not that it's ever bothered the uplifters.

Thank God I live in Bugtussell, as the uplifters have never gained traction around here.

Chas

[Charles]

Here in NY it is indeed very old news. Frankly I think the ban is inappropriate. As long as patrons and workers are aware that a bar or restaurant allows smoking why on earth should it be disallowed?

For the record I do not smoke and find second hand smoke repulsive.

BTW,a cigar after dinner is not smoking :D

I never did care for cigars, but after smoking a couple of Cobia's I'd be willing to take it up.

Chas

[Boreas]

Thank God I live in Bugtussell, as the uplifters have never gained traction around here.

Chas

And the bugs are the worse for it. ;)

Oh, and I prefer to call them tide raisers, not uplifters. :)

John

[Charles]

And the bugs are the worse for it. ;)

Oh, and I prefer to call them tide raisers, not uplifters. :)

John

The bugs like things the way they are.

I'll split the difference with ya....let's just call 'em do gooder's. As far as I'm concerned, it's a big world...go save a knuckle dragging cretin somewhere else.

I may be old and fat, but I can still bust a whiskey bottle upsides someone's head. Let me serve my time, then they can save the world.

And "they" can quit overtaxing me at any time.

Chas

[Grumpy]

You ask good questions but would you prefer that the laws that exist were repealed, leaving nothing in their place, because they didn't completely eliminate the problem?

John


No I would prefer they stay out of a business's, bidness.