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BlueStreak
02-07-2010, 02:45 PM
Sounds like a smart move to me. Hope it gives them a much needed boost.

Oh, that's right, I'm supposed to wish the Big Three nothing but failure because Republicans hate unions.:rolleyes:

Naw, fuck that.

Dave

Boreas
02-07-2010, 02:54 PM
Sounds like a smart move to me. Hope it gives them a much needed boost.

Oh, that's right, I'm supposed to wish the Big Three nothing but failure because Republicans hate unions.:rolleyes:

Naw, fuck that.

Dave

Yeah, good move. Too bad Shelby can't figure out a way to block this too. He got paid good money for getting that Toyota plant built in Huntsville. F^@%ing whore!

John

piece-itpete
02-08-2010, 07:59 AM
Sounds like a smart move to me. Hope it gives them a much needed boost.

Oh, that's right, I'm supposed to wish the Big Three nothing but failure because Republicans hate unions.:rolleyes:

Naw, fuck that.

Dave

I only drive UAW built autos. Many Libs can't say that. And millionaires are more likely to own F150s than any other demographic (that's interesting, no?).

I've got a teenie smirk for Toyota. They're getting hammered with this.

Pete

noonereal
02-08-2010, 08:10 AM
I only drive UAW built autos. Many Libs can't say that.

many wing nuts can say that

did you have a point?

merrylander
02-08-2010, 08:20 AM
Since I am a conservative I guess it does not count, but there are his and hers Chev Impalas in our garage.

piece-itpete
02-08-2010, 08:43 AM
did you have a point?

Yes - I put my money where my mouth is.

I hammer the Unions because they got greedy.

Since I am a conservative I guess it does not count, but there are his and hers Chev Impalas in our garage.

With spinners? :D

Pete

BlueStreak
02-08-2010, 09:15 AM
Yes - I put my money where my mouth is.

I hammer the Unions because they got greedy.

Pete

Do you hammer Wall Street?

Dave

BlueStreak
02-08-2010, 11:39 AM
I only drive UAW built autos. Many Libs can't say that. And millionaires are more likely to own F150s than any other demographic (that's interesting, no?).

I've got a teenie smirk for Toyota. They're getting hammered with this.

Pete

Never owned anything but American cars. Well, that's not totally true. I did find out that the Mighty BlueStreak was made in Canada. And a little research revealed that some American companies have moved production across the border into Canada because the company doesn't have to pay for employee------HEALTH INSURANCE. (Where's Rob when I need him?)

I have a huge smirk for Toyota. Now we're finding out that Toyota management has known about this for a while.......:mad:

You know, I understand that many Americans now depend on foreign manufacturing for their income....Heck, I'm one of them, I work for Italians.
But there's just something about the Japanese way of doing things that's unique---and sticks in my craw. The whole "Born to serve the company" thing is just a tad too Orwellian for my taste.

So far, I like working for Italians, it's different, but in a good way. They seem to like top notch equipment, and that's makes my job so much more enjoyable. All of the American companies were just a bunch of cheap, tight-wad bastards that would make us work with beat-up 80 year old pieces of shit, and then blame us when it broke down. (Damn Republicans.:p)

Anyhow,

I hope this situation helps GM, Ford, and Chrysler get back on their feet. Then, maybe we'll get some of our money back?

Dave

Boreas
02-08-2010, 11:49 AM
I have a huge smirk for Toyota. Now we're finding out that Toyota management has known about this for a while.......:mad:

I follow motor racing a bit, mostly Formula One. Recently Toyota shut down their F1 operation in Koln, just shut it down. Now, Toyota hasn't exactly set the world on fire in F1 and Honda bowed out a year earlier (but the resold team won the whole show in 2009 as "Brawn GP") but I wondered about the sudden and unexpected move by Toyota. When the recall surfaced I thought I'd found the answer. They cut an expensive and marginally useful program to help pay for all the law suits heading their way.

By the way, I've owned American, European and Japanese cars. I've just bought what appealed to me and what would serve my needs. There was a time when there was no US made car that fit that bill. (We made some real turds for a very long time.) But... my last three vehicles have all been Ford pickups.

John

piece-itpete
02-08-2010, 11:57 AM
Yeah, all 4 of my 'domestic' Grand Marquis were built in Canada. But close enough :)

My SOs' PC Cruiser was built in Mexico :(

I worked for a Sicillian - yipes. Squeeze a nickle and get 6 cents!

Agreed about the whole Asian business culture, I bet it would drive us nuts.

I currently work for some Jewish gentlemen, it is the best company I've ever worked for.

And Toyotas going DOWN!! :D

Pete

piece-itpete
02-08-2010, 11:57 AM
But... my last three vehicles have all been Ford pickups.

John

A-HA! You're a millionaire! :p

Pete

Boreas
02-08-2010, 12:08 PM
And Toyotas going DOWN!! :D

Pete

No way. The Japanese government would never let that happen. Plus, I heard a slew of soundbites from Toyota owners. Almost all of them said they would definitely buy another Toyota.

Some of you may remember that Audi went through a horrible time in the early '80s over the same issue of "unintended acceleration". It took them a long time to bounce back but they did. (While all this was going on I bought an '84 Audi GT. It's just about my favorite car of all I've owned.

John

Boreas
02-08-2010, 12:09 PM
A-HA! You're a millionaire! :p

Pete

I was but Reagan cured me. ;)

John

piece-itpete
02-08-2010, 12:11 PM
I was but Reagan cured me. ;)

John

Thank goodness for that defender of the common man :D

Pete

merrylander
02-08-2010, 02:18 PM
Defender of who?

rickr15
02-08-2010, 05:29 PM
Toyota will be just fine.They have friends.


http://www.chieftain.com/articles/2010/02/08/news/local/doc4b6fa62ba675e853051072.txt

BlueStreak
02-08-2010, 11:42 PM
Sounds about right.

piece-itpete
02-09-2010, 07:49 AM
Strange that the great friends of the UAW should also be their enemies.

Pete

merrylander
02-09-2010, 07:56 AM
It has now come out that State Farm notified NHTSA about the acceleration problem over a year before they took action.

rickr15
02-09-2010, 08:35 AM
One of my co workers has a Tundra. Toyota replaced his gas pedal parts over a year ago. With Lexus parts because they knew then the replacement Toyota ones were potentially defective.


Obviously they've known they had a problem for some time now.

Boreas
02-09-2010, 10:00 AM
One thing I noticed about that article is the only people they mentioned by name were Democrats. In cases where Republicans' names could have been mentioned all they did was mention their states.

John

BlueStreak
02-09-2010, 10:29 AM
Strange that the great friends of the UAW should also be their enemies.

Pete

How so?

Regards,
Dave

BlueStreak
02-09-2010, 10:31 AM
One of my co workers has a Tundra. Toyota replaced his gas pedal parts over a year ago. With Lexus parts because they knew then the replacement Toyota ones were potentially defective.


Obviously they've known they had a problem for some time now.

Sure they did. They just don't give a shit. Until they get caught, that is.
And who is it that catches them and brings them to task on it?
But, NO, what we need is LESS regulation.:confused:

Dave

piece-itpete
02-09-2010, 10:36 AM
How so?

Regards,
Dave

And who is it that catches them and brings them to task on it?

Dave

Read the article and see the sad sellout answer.

Pete

merrylander
02-09-2010, 10:42 AM
The NHTSA still has not been fixed since the Ford-Firestone fiasco, State Farm warned them back in 2007, result nada, nothing. No doubt some Senator has a hold on whoever is supposed to run the agency.

There is the recipe for a truly great farce in our system of government somewhere. Here we have Justice going after companies because they bribed foreign governments to get contracts, but the Supremes say bribery is legal.

BlueStreak
02-09-2010, 10:47 AM
One thing I noticed about that article is the only people they mentioned by name were Democrats. In cases where Republicans' names could have been mentioned all they did was mention their states.

John


Of course, John. I've seen you mention before how FauxNews has the habit of putting a Republicans face and name on the screen, but putting a (D) next to his/her name. (When this person is saying something they don't like of course.) It's just another misleading tactic. These people are full of them.

Take the "Mandated Insurance" issue. Signed into law in Massachussetts by Gov. Mitt Romney (R), correct? And as I recall, it was his idea. But look at how it's always presented by the right-wing media---as a "failed socialist experiment tried in a Blue State". No mention of the fact that it was the brain-child of one of their own. No, no. Never that.

Simple, but effective tactics. Mainly because they know most Americans aren't watching for it.

Regards,
Dave

Boreas
02-09-2010, 10:49 AM
Read the article and see the sad sellout answer.

Pete

Let's wait and see what happens, shall we, Pete? The article doesn't point to previous wrongdoing or "sellouts" but you've apparently decided the outcome of any investigation or hearings.

John

BlueStreak
02-09-2010, 10:50 AM
Read the article and see the sad sellout answer.

Pete


I did read the article. See my last post.

Dave

rickr15
02-11-2010, 08:34 AM
Lucky for Honda that Toyota is getting slammed like this. Hardly anyone is paying attention to their little air bag problem. It was very quietly ongoing before the big blowup but has now been officially declared a recall. Because they want to be open and transparent.

piece-itpete
02-11-2010, 08:50 AM
I did read the article. See my last post.

Dave

Well add'em up! ;) The Dems are taking care of the imports while using the unions.

Pete

merrylander
02-11-2010, 10:26 AM
Well add'em up! ;) The Dems are taking care of the imports while using the unions.

Pete

So when did Corker switch parties? When did Coburn switch? And the list goes on.:rolleyes:

Boreas
02-11-2010, 11:00 AM
Well add'em up! ;) The Dems are taking care of the imports while using the unions.

Pete

I added them up. Here are the legislators mentioned in the article.

Rochefeller (D)
Harman (D)

McConnell (R)
Bunning (R)

Of course, Pete, this article doesn't point to ANY previous favoritism shown by ANY legislator.

John

noonereal
02-11-2010, 11:34 AM
Yes - I put my money where my mouth is.

I hammer the Unions because they got greedy.





Pete

You hammer the unions for winning benefits in negotiations and do not take to the streets when the Bankers who take taxpayers dollars after collapsing the world economy through straight greed take bonuses?
Sorry Pete, it's just not rational.

BlueStreak
02-11-2010, 11:48 AM
Workers bad, Capitalists good.

A guy making twenty bucks an hour on an assembly line is the one who is destroying America. The guy who closes the plant, dumps all of the assembly line people out on the street and onto the unemployment rolls and moves the plant overseas to increase his own personal "piece of the action" is a True American Hero in the finest Reaganite tradition.

When are you going to figure it out, Nooner?

Regards,
Dave

Boreas
02-11-2010, 11:56 AM
You wanna know who to watch in any Senate investigation of Toyota? Richard Shelby (R. Alabama). He's already on record as wanting US manufacturers to fail. He threatened to filibuster the auto bailout because he said that GM & Chrysler deserved to fail.

There are Toyota, Honda and Mercedes Benz plants in Alabama. Hmmm...

Also, Shelby is the guy who placed a blanket hold on over 70 Obama appointments. He didn't necessarily object to any of them. He was just holding them hostage so that he could get some pork for pet projects, like a multi-billion dollar contract for Airbus in Huntsville, AL. Airbus is a French company.

It's funny that Shelby wasn't even mentioned in that AP story. He's a legislator that you could accuse of working for Toyota.

But, you know, we have this Left Wing Media Machine and they would NEVER.... Oh, wait.....

John

BlueStreak
02-11-2010, 12:31 PM
No, no, John. He's a Republican. He only has what's good for America in mind.
That is why the Almighty has blessed us with Rep. Shelbys wise governance.
Corporate profits going overseas is precisely what we need more of right now.

How dare you question this Great Americans motivations?

Geez, get with it.

Dave

merrylander
02-11-2010, 12:43 PM
You can now ad Honda to the recall list, something about high pressure airbags. It gets better every day.

piece-itpete
02-17-2010, 12:28 PM
Not the Mustang!

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/ford_recalls_2010_mustang

Pete

BlueStreak
02-18-2010, 01:47 AM
God, I love The Onion!!!