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Dondilion
03-16-2015, 02:49 PM
According to Krugman, the real purpose of Natanyahu's congress speech was to
deflect the Israeli electorate attention from the growing inequality in the country.

Krugman indicates that the Israeli departure from kibbutz imagery really began after privatization when a clique got control of certain heights of the economy.

This is a new insight for me.

Like in Russia, Ukraine and ex soviet satellites privatization was an oppurtunity for the smart and well connected to grab national assets for peanuts and then form and reinforce an exclusive club...oligarchic. A George Soros inspiration. :D

I did not realize that Israel, although not an ex soviet, was part of the privatization set.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/16/opinion/paul-krugman-israels-gilded-age.html?action=click&contentCollection=Opinion&module=MostEmailed&version=Full&region=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article

bobabode
03-16-2015, 03:18 PM
I'm hoping Bibi has a Mitt-moment tomorrow. ;)

bobabode
03-16-2015, 11:39 PM
What a schmuck...http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/on-final-day-of-campaign-netanyahu-says-no-palestinian-state-if-he-wins/2015/03/16/4f4468e8-cbdc-11e4-8730-4f473416e759_story.html?hpid=z1

Dondilion
03-17-2015, 04:30 AM
Because he is in a tight spot he is giving voice to his true long held intention.

Israelis of whatever political stripe understand that no US government will
push hard against them for their positions on settlement and Palestinian State.

The Israelis and their interests have undermined and to some extent intimidate US governments. We have become the client state.
Thanks to Netanyahu more people can discern the real nature of Israeli/US relationship.

Zeke
03-17-2015, 08:38 AM
Israelis of whatever political stripe understand that no US government will push hard against them for their positions on settlement and Palestinian State.

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003337207/2745734290_white_washing_israeli_war_crimes_xlarge .jpeg

PRECISELY.

merrylander
03-17-2015, 09:16 AM
Uh Zeke your bias is showing (and so is Don's), there was and is fault on both sides. History shows who started it, but tit for tat rarely works in the long run.

Dondilion
03-17-2015, 10:05 AM
How am I biased?

My posts essentially deal with the powerful nature of the Israeli lobby and Netanyahu
use of such a lobby.

merrylander
03-17-2015, 10:14 AM
Oops, sorry Don I see that Zeke posted the link not you after quoting your post, which is sort of nasty. Eyesight is not what it used to be.

Rajoo
03-17-2015, 10:21 AM
Oops, sorry Don I see that Zeke posted the link not you after quoting your post, which is sort of nasty. Eyesight is not what it used to be.

There is more to Zeke's post than meets the eye. ;)

bobabode
03-17-2015, 02:11 PM
Any election news from Tel Aviv yet?

bobabode
03-17-2015, 02:23 PM
http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-election-2015/1.647304

Looks like Bibi is running scared.

Tom Joad
03-17-2015, 02:36 PM
http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-election-2015/1.647304

Looks like Bibi is running scared.

I hope that fucker goes down.

Maybe we'll see some results soon.

It's later there than it is here.

finnbow
03-17-2015, 02:45 PM
Bibi could still be the next PM even if he loses. For example, Likud didn't win the 2009 elections after Ehud Olmert's resignation, but Netanyahu was still able to cobble together a ruling coalition.

Per Wiki, here's the procedure for who gets to be PM:

After official results are published, the President delegates the task of forming a government to the member of Knesset with the best chance of assembling a majority coalition (usually the leader of the largest party, but not required). That member has up to 42 days to negotiate with the different parties, and then present his or her government to the Knesset for a vote of confidence. Once the government is approved (by a vote of at least 61 members), he or she becomes Prime Minister.

FWIW, the current President, Reuven Rivlin belongs to Likud.

bobabode
03-17-2015, 02:46 PM
I hope that fucker goes down.

Maybe we'll see some results soon.

It's later there than it is here.

He's using the 'bagger handbook of blaming minorities for the polls while whining about the election laws.

Poor Bibi, it's still a little early but I'm calling it Bibi's boo boo for playing the race card. ;)

Dondilion
03-17-2015, 02:58 PM
http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-election-2015/1.647304

Looks like Bibi is running scared.

Yes, in the last days of the campaign he has increase the decibels of his race baiting and scare mongering.

Dondilion
03-17-2015, 03:09 PM
Bibi could still be the next PM even if he loses. For example, Likud didn't win the 2009 elections after Ehud Olmert's resignation, but Netanyahu was still able to cobble together a ruling coalition.

Per Wiki, here's the procedure for who gets to be PM:

After official results are published, the President delegates the task of forming a government to the member of Knesset with the best chance of assembling a majority coalition (usually the leader of the largest party, but not required). That member has up to 42 days to negotiate with the different parties, and then present his or her government to the Knesset for a vote of confidence. Once the government is approved (by a vote of at least 61 members), he or she becomes Prime Minister.

FWIW, the current President, Reuven Rivlin belongs to Likud.

Moshe Kahlon of the Kulanu party is the key player in the building of any
coalition.
One of his major concern is the high price of basics in Israel.

finnbow
03-17-2015, 04:06 PM
Moshe Kahlon of the Kulanu party is the key player in the building of any
coalition.
One of his major concern is the high price of basics in Israel.

This is the key issue for nearly everybody except the Far Right. The cost of living there is insane. My son's apartment in Tel Aviv is $3,500/month. Thankfully, it's covered by his housing allowance. Grocery prices are also insane, about 3X what they are here (other than fresh produce at big outdoor markets). A falafel or shawarma from a street vendor is upwards of $10, as is a good beer at a bar.

Rajoo
03-17-2015, 05:14 PM
Netanyahu from today:

At midday, Netanyahu claimed high Arab voter turnout was putting his right wing Likud Party's rule "in danger," according to a posting on his Facebook page. "Arab voters are going to the polls in droves. Left wing organizations are bringing them in buses," he said.


Yet another right winger complaining about voter participation. If he loses, which I fervently hope, he can move to Texas.

bobabode
03-17-2015, 05:27 PM
Too close to call at this point but Likud is supposedly up by one seat.

Tom Joad
03-17-2015, 08:58 PM
Looks like it's going to be Evil triumphing over good on this one. :(

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/18/world/middleeast/israel-election-netanyahu-herzog.html?_r=0

merrylander
03-18-2015, 07:18 AM
A sad day for Israel.

Boreas
03-18-2015, 09:59 AM
Looks like playing the race card worked. Bibi seems to have about 30 seats and Herzog/Livni around 24.

John

Dondilion
03-24-2015, 07:01 AM
Israel spied on the US/IRAN discussions.

http://jewishbusinessnews.com/2015/03/24/report-us-spies-discovered-israel-spied-on-us-iran-nuclear-talks/

Boreas
03-24-2015, 09:36 AM
Israel spied on the US/IRAN discussions.

http://jewishbusinessnews.com/2015/03/24/report-us-spies-discovered-israel-spied-on-us-iran-nuclear-talks/

Before Netanyahu's campaign event in the House of Representatives, the Obama Administration warned him not to disclose any details of the, um, secret "P5+1" talks.

In other words, we knew the Israelis had been spying on them.

We need to place conditions on our aid to Israel, particularly as concerns progress toward a two-state solution, maybe even to acknowledging that they have nukes and signing he NNPT.

John