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Pio1980
05-25-2015, 11:32 AM
Is it a Liberal/Progressive legacy or a Conservative based legacy, however that would be defined?
Thoughts?

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mpholland
05-25-2015, 11:57 AM
Laughing stock? Does it need defined?

BlueStreak
05-25-2015, 12:57 PM
What can you say about a country that is more concerned with running the rest of the world than it is with taking care of its own citizens? That's neither a Conservative OR a Liberal thing. Conservatives want to hold a gun to the "outsiders" heads to keep them under control and Liberals want to buy them off with OUR money and jobs.

I think we need to start rebuilding American industry and cities before there is nothing left.

Dave

Zeke
05-25-2015, 01:44 PM
American Exceptionalism bullshit rightfully equals "Ugly American" throughout the world.

bobabode
05-25-2015, 02:40 PM
Is it a Liberal/Progressive legacy or a Conservative based legacy, however that would be defined?
Thoughts?

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Call me a starry eyed dreamer but I still see the glass as half full.
A progressive liberal Democrat. :)

mpholland
05-25-2015, 02:45 PM
Half a glass is just half a glass...no more, no less! ;)

Pio1980
05-25-2015, 06:20 PM
Looking at issues advocated by our historical Conservatives re slavery, indentured industrial servitude, segregation/Jim Crow, organized labor supression, other forms of economic exploitation. Social equality suppression, religious opression by majority rule, ect, ect.

The things generally admired generally relate to progressive ideas like social equality and fair freely available justice, representative organized labor, universal education, a well regulated equitable and vibrant free enterprize economy, support of the arts, supportive public social programs, fully equitable religious liberty, ect, ect.

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Oerets
05-26-2015, 08:49 AM
In being founded on Religious Freedoms, Personal Bill of Rights alone should be thought Progressive for the time, dear I say Liberal even. But then consider our history of Slavery treatment of the Indigenous peoples, Immigrants those less fortunate. I see an all to common "Do As I Say Not As I Do" way of working out.

Having worked for years with a major USA airline with folks from every county just about. Noticed quickly the empty headed loudmouth know it all's were the locals.






Barney

Dondilion
05-26-2015, 10:19 AM
Half a glass is just half a glass...no more, no less! ;)

Is that an original quote?

Just curious.

icenine
05-26-2015, 10:27 AM
It is the Big PX. Two cars in the driveway and a home in the suburbs for everyone (or is is perceived to be that) coupled with a foreign policy that believes in exporting American exceptionalism.

nailer
05-26-2015, 11:07 AM
Is it a Liberal/Progressive legacy or a Conservative based legacy, however that would be defined?
Thoughts?

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Too early to say.