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Boreas
12-13-2015, 02:51 PM
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A man like this is too dangerous to live.

finnbow
12-13-2015, 03:04 PM
Who is "they?" AFAIK, Sirhan Sirhan acted alone out of animosity for RFK supporting Israel in the 6-day war in 1967.

donquixote99
12-13-2015, 03:08 PM
Maybe so, but let's not get distracted from the message.

finnbow
12-13-2015, 03:17 PM
Maybe so, but let's not get distracted from the message.

The message is terrific, but had nothing to do with his death as implied by the OP.

Boreas
12-13-2015, 03:24 PM
Who is "they?" AFAIK, Sirhan Sirhan acted alone out of animosity for RFK supporting Israel in the 6-day war in 1967.

Perhaps.

Perhaps Oswald acted alone.

Perhaps James Earl Ray did too.

Or perhaps not.

Perhaps JFK was killed because he planned to end our involvement in Vietnam.

Perhaps RFK and MLK were killed because they too opposed the war.

Or perhaps not.

finnbow
12-13-2015, 03:28 PM
Perhaps.

Perhaps Oswald acted alone.

Perhaps James Earl Ray did too.

Or perhaps not.

Perhaps JFK was killed because he planned to end our involvement in Vietnam.

Perhaps RFK and MLK were killed because they too opposed the war.

Or perhaps not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan#Motives

OTOH, I do believe in the possibility of conspiracies in the JFK and MLK murders, particularly MLK. After having spent a half-day recently at the National Civil Rights Museum in Memphis (highly recommended, BTW), it was difficult coming to another conclusion.

Boreas
12-13-2015, 03:35 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan#Motives

OTOH, I do believe in the possibility of conspiracies in the JFK and MLK murders, particularly MLK. After having spent a half-day recently at the National Civil Rights Museum in Memphis (highly recommended, BTW), it was difficult coming to another conclusion.

The question regarding Sirhan Sirhan isn't whether he shot RFK but whether he was self-actualized. I think the identity of those responsible for the assassinations of JRK, RFK, MLK and Malcolm X is very much an open question.

One thing is for certain and that is that they all said and proposed things the MIC didn't want said or proposed.

And then there's J. Edgar Hoover.

Dondilion
12-13-2015, 05:05 PM
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A man can be lesser because of his beliefs or the policies he pursues.

A major irony:We must admit that our children's future can not be built on the misfortunes of others.

Boreas
12-13-2015, 05:14 PM
A major irony:We must admit that our children's future can not be built on the misfortunes of others.

For instance, on the misfortunes of refugees, be they escaping political persecution, economic privation or conflict.

finnbow
12-13-2015, 05:25 PM
For instance, on the misfortunes of refugees, be they escaping political persecution, economic privation or conflict.

Particularly when our nation's actions (and subsequent inaction) were a proximate cause for the refugee crisis.

MrPots
12-13-2015, 05:30 PM
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A man like this is too dangerous to live.

Indeed, it's a shame that such noble intent has become so unfashionable...... so naive.....

MrPots
12-13-2015, 05:32 PM
The message is terrific, but had nothing to do with his death as implied by the OP.

He had to die, Our American form of capitalism could never have let him live and still survive. The war machine that fuels our economy could not have survived true peace. Hell, it can't get by more than a couple of years tops without war.....

finnbow
12-13-2015, 05:40 PM
He had to die, Our American form of capitalism could never have let him live and still survive. The war machine that fuels our economy could not have survived true peace. Hell, it can't get by more than a couple of years tops without war.....

To the extent that James Earl Ray acted as part of a larger conspiracy (if he did), I think a more compelling case would be Hoover and his ilk wanting to keep race relations right where they were prior to the civil rights movement.

MrPots
12-13-2015, 05:44 PM
You have a good point .

Boreas
12-13-2015, 05:51 PM
To the extent that James Earl Ray acted as part of a larger conspiracy (if he did), I think a more compelling case would be Hoover and his ilk wanting to keep race relations right where they were prior to the civil rights movement.

Frankly, it's far from inconceivable that Hoover was behind all 4 assassinations. He absolutely hated the Kennedys, Bobby in particular, and, as you say, wanted to preserve segregation and Jim Crow. Malcolm and Martin were a threat to that, particularly as their positions on key issues moved closer to each other's.

VanishingPoi
01-09-2016, 04:12 PM
Indeed, it's a shame that such noble intent has become so unfashionable...... so naive.....

Somethings never change....:(

donquixote99
11-14-2016, 02:39 PM
Hey, the quote or whatever was in the OP is missing! What's up with that?