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whell 04-05-2012 08:55 AM

Its Israel's fault
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17620925

This is obviously Israel's fault. :rolleyes:

BlueStreak 04-05-2012 10:33 AM

If we had never created that travesty in the desert, we might not have as many problems today as we do. They are an unwanted intruder in the tenement of life, over there. But, we just had to do it out of a bunch of silly religious nonsense. I've even heard some argue that the creation of Israel was an anti-Semitic move on the behalf of some Eurpoean governments, a way of inviting the Jews to leave. And, I'm begiinning to think there may be some truth in that.

Regards,
Dave

piece-itpete 04-05-2012 10:44 AM

They're no guest, and it wasn't religious.

When are the ME nations going to grow up? 'We're here, we're queer, get used to it.' Wait, wrong slogan.

Pete

BlueStreak 04-05-2012 11:02 AM

Okay, fixed it for ya.

And,

Ooooooh but a lot of people sure do think the return of the Israelites to the holyland has religious significance, don't they?

Dave

piece-itpete 04-05-2012 11:13 AM

Yes some think it's significant, including myself, but the real immediate reason at the time is far different.


I guess you could say the western powers at the time were trying to find a solution that wasn't awful.

Pete

noonereal 04-05-2012 11:18 AM

It was done to give us a foothold in the middle east and not for humanitarian reasons.

Very little is ever done for humanitarian reasons but humanitarian reasons are always shoved in the face of the masses to "sell" the ideas of the powerful.

BlueStreak 04-05-2012 11:19 AM

The "final" solution was awful, so they needed a better way? The religious aspect just made the move more palatable for the general populace to swallow. Easier for the powers that be to sell. History is full of instances where religion is highjacked for such reasons. Isn't it?

Or are we talking about protecting other "interests"? Which, well..................is getting rather expensive these days.

Dave

piece-itpete 04-05-2012 11:23 AM

At the time any thinking person was revolted and hoped to prevent it from happening again.

If we were doing it for various reasons you'd think we'd have put it someplace with oil and maybe water.

Pete

noonereal 04-05-2012 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 96906)
At the time any thinking person was revolted and hoped to prevent it from happening again.

If we were doing it for various reasons you'd think we'd have put it someplace with oil and maybe water.

Pete

Believe as you like. No government or especially group of governments has ever done anything to "be nice."

It just doesn't happen. Just like no war has ever been fought for other than economics.

Even Bi's supports would never have attacked us if they all had lap tops and wide screens to keep them content.

Sorry Pete the idea that governments do charity work just strikes me as naive.

piece-itpete 04-05-2012 11:42 AM

I agree that government work in their best interests. The scope and scale of antisemitism at its' worst caused reactions though. Unless FDR was inhuman?

Pete


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