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nailer 04-03-2016 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 304313)
They have chosen paralysis. In the wake of Charly Hebdo and the Paris Massacre, France's government has refused to take the political risks involved in dealing humanely with the refugees in their country. Instead, they have allowed them to travel completely across their country and pile up like jetsam on their shores.

The French are paralyzed as a nation and essentially have been since WWI. Verdun was the tipping point. Your description of their current government actions to a large degree mirrors their response to Nazi Germany.

merrylander 04-03-2016 12:00 PM

Funny you all call them migrants but here we call them undocumented aliens.

Boreas 04-03-2016 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 308868)
Funny you all call them migrants but here we call them undocumented aliens.

Actually, I call them refugees. So does the country of your birth. What do you call them?

merrylander 04-04-2016 07:19 AM

Refugees since many are fleeing terror and death in Central America.

HarmanKardon 04-04-2016 12:01 PM

My mother is calling them refugees. She knows what she is talking about. She was a refugee in 1945, a young girl threatened by rape and death.

Boreas 04-04-2016 12:28 PM

The use of the term "migrants" is a deliberate attempt to minimize the plight of these people. It's designed to characterize them as people who are not fleeing from economic ruin and the very real threat of death but as people who at best merely want to be social parasites in their new country of residence and at worst enter those countries as terrorist "sleepers".

catswiththum 04-04-2016 07:23 PM

Very good article from The Economist - the old left vs. right days are waning; people no longer attach themselves to a particular class - the industrial/manufacturing political identity is all but gone.

http://www.economist.com/news/briefi...-thou-art-sick

Dondilion 04-04-2016 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 309029)
Very good article from The Economist - the old left vs. right days are waning; people no longer attach themselves to a particular class - the industrial/manufacturing political identity is all but gone.

http://www.economist.com/news/briefi...-thou-art-sick

Well written.

The article ends with advice to center leftists: "They must make their own currents".

But Cats how is this tied to the migrant issue?

catswiththum 04-05-2016 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 309050)
Well written.

The article ends with advice to center leftists: "They must make their own currents".

But Cats how is this tied to the migrant issue?

From the article:

Where are all the votes going? Many have been hoovered up by populists, typically of the anti-market left in southern Europe and the anti-migrant right in the north

And:

The fall of the iron curtain in 1989 and the subsequent integration of eastern Europe into the EU hastened some of that change by providing new pools of cheap labour. It also had a deeper effect. The politics of the EU countries had until then been constrained by history: hemmed in by the threat of the Soviet Union on one side and by memories of fascism on the other, social democrats and Christian democrats huddled in the centre ground. A generation later parties can set out their pitch far away from the old mainstream.

merrylander 04-05-2016 08:00 AM

On the news last night most of the 'migrants' returned to Turkey were Pakistanis, so what terror were they fleeing?


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