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whell 08-28-2016 09:16 AM

Central Bankers - Economies in the Tank
 
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/global-cen...-business.html

Mired in a world of low growth, low inflation and low interest rates, officials from the Federal Reserve, Bank of Japan and the European Central Bank said their efforts to bolster the economy through monetary policy may falter unless elected leaders stepped forward with bold measures. These would range from immigration reform in Japan to structural changes to boost productivity and growth in the U.S. and Europe.

Without that, they said, it would be hard to convince markets and households that things will get better, and encourage the shift in mood many economists feel are needed to improve economic performance worldwide. During a Saturday session at the symposium, such a slump in expectations about inflation and about other aspects of the economy was cited as a central problem complicating central banks' efforts to reach inflation targets and dimming prospects in Japan and Europe.


Yellen on "pumping":

Fed Chair Janet Yellen devoted the final page of her keynote talk on possible monetary policy reforms to a list of fiscal and structural policies she feels would help the economy.

Fiscal policy was not on the formal agenda for the conference, but it was a steady part of the dialogue as policymakers thought through policies for a post-crisis world. One of the central worries is that households and businesses have become so cautious and set in their outlooks - expecting little growth and little inflation - that they do not respond in expected ways to the efforts central banks have made.

That has included flooding the financial system with cash, and voicing a steady commitment to their inflation targets in an effort to make people believe they will be met.


That's right Janet. No one with 1/2 a brain believes that dumping money in the economy works, ever has worked, or ever will work. Why the gov't and the Fed keep trying to "make people believe" it will is beyond me. But as if that's not enough, these wizards of smart want to double-down on stupid ideas:

In a lunch address by Princeton University economist Christopher Sims, policymakers were told that it may take a massive program, large enough even to shock taxpayers into a different, inflationary view of the future.

"Fiscal expansion can replace ineffective monetary policy at the zero lower bound," Sims said. "It requires deficits aimed at, and conditioned on, generating inflation. The deficits must be seen as financed by future inflation, not future taxes or spending cuts."


Its time to start putting cash in the mattress. :rolleyes:

Dondilion 08-28-2016 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 329391)
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/global-cen...-business.html



Its time to start putting cash in the mattress. :rolleyes:

How is that going to occur when so much is sucked upward and parked outside of the country?

Additionally what use to come from China and Russia to provide bright spots such as in Paris, London, Vancouver, LA, New York, San Francisco has been reduced considerably and the good paying working class jobs in gas and oil are disappearing.

The globalists are on a relentless drive to bring the workers of first world to the floors of that 2nd and 3rd world.

Workers in the first world are going to find it harder and harder to create savings or hold on to what they have saved.

donquixote99 08-28-2016 12:54 PM

Also, when the big guys start talking up inflation, that's NOT the time to keep your wealth in cash, let alone in a mattress that doesn't pay any return.

Pio1980 08-28-2016 12:58 PM

Does that mean the so-called "Conservatives" in the US are globalist because their policies decimated the middle class?

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donquixote99 08-28-2016 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 329415)
Does that mean the so-called "Conservatives" in the US are globalist because their policies decimated the middle class?

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Nowadays the so-called US conservatives mainly work for the globalists.

nailer 08-28-2016 04:07 PM

The Clintons and Obama are globalists.

whell 08-28-2016 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 329411)
How is that going to occur when so much is sucked upward and parked outside of the country?

The bankers have identified the right disease - lack of economic growth - but totally screwed up the suggested cure. Growth is what's needed. Averaging 2% growth over the past decade is the biggest contributor to the perceived income / wealth disparity. But you're not going to fix it by tailoring a debt - laden government spending spree.

whell 08-28-2016 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 329414)
Also, when the big guys start talking up inflation, that's NOT the time to keep your wealth in cash, let alone in a mattress that doesn't pay any return.

When the "big guys" come up with their hair-brained ideas, that's exactly the time fill the mattress. If that happens, money will get sucked out of the economy, but it won't be inflation as the primary culprit. It will be negative GDP growth, aka recession or worse.

BlueStreak 08-28-2016 05:37 PM

Has listening to Republicans become as deeply depressing for everyone else as it has for me? Christ, what a miserable lot these hopelessly pessimistic people are.

Anyhow;

So, thirty five-forty years ago the enemy was identified as inflation causing economic stagnation and we were told that labor unions and high wages were the cause. That rising wages kill growth. Now, we are told the problem is a lack of inflation and declining incomes due to globalism and the third world exerting downward pressure on wages?

You know what? I think whoever said this is right.

Pio1980 08-28-2016 05:40 PM

Universal "Growth" is not a sustainable policy.

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