Trying to close our southern border to migration is a fool's errand.

And Canada is also far more welcoming to refugees than we are and does not have a race-based policy such as Trump has demonstrated he wants through his travel bans and shithole comments. Stop defending the indefensible.

The bipartisan proposal brought by six Senators to the shithole meeting addressed all four areas Trump said that must be addressed: DACA, border security, chain migration and merit-based immigration and he blew it up with his racist comment. Rather than working with this proposal (as he promised he would just Tuesday. in his silly public meeting), he blows it up and rather than apologize for his racist comment to restart the process, he today blames Democrats for killing immigration reform in an effort to withhold funds from the military. As asinine as this is, it seems you bought it lock, stock and barrel.

Merit is a subjective term.

Our perception is subjective.

Thanks, Captain Obvious.:rolleyes:

Your welcome, General Mainstream. :p

Republicans have no choice at the moment. Attitudes may change after the midterms.

I am sure he did and probably on purpose. But his prose is much more elegant than the Dotard's.

Also, I am all for copying the Canadian immigration system, but let's copy their healthcare system first.

Good luck wit dat.

You have some of these red counties in this country where sixth grade, probably fourth or fifth grade, is the average adult education and reading level...and it's not due to race. It's due to local red neck conservative delusional christian control of local school boards and the fucked up curriculum they foist on the unfortunate children therein.

Yep. That is definitely the problem in Detroit.

And they wind up as Fox “News” consuming, non thinking conservatives, who vote incompetent morons like Trump into office. Sad!

Why do we call these red state morons conservatives?
Conservatism is a philosophy that requires knowledge, understanding and making an informed choice. If I thumb a bible, will that make me a conservative? That's a low bar.

As opposed to the fat ass bimbo.

No need to bring your mother into this.

Today, lying Donnie Dotard said:

"I am the least racist person you have ever interviewed. That I can tell you."

More likely your wife.

Children, children, children.

Enjoy your time out.

Hip waders won't cut it on this one.

Why focusing on 'shithole' totally misses the point

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/15/politi...sis/index.html

Trust me it is only the bigoted who failed to see the point being expressed!



Barney

I'm rubber you're glue everything you say to me bounces off and sticks to you...dickwad.

But really...Detroit overrun by red neck conservative delusional christians. You may be the most pathetic when you're trying to be amusing.

Thank you Chris Cillizza, known to his friends as Captain Obvious.

Here's the thing about this whole issue.

Trump made a commitment, in front of the cameras, to sign whatever the bipartisan team came up with on immigration. And as usual he has proven himself to be a terminal lying sack of shit. He honors his commitment to the members of Congress and this all goes away, including the possible government shutdown. That's all there is to this story, except for one really fucked up reality...

Trump wants a government shut-down. He sees himself as a big hero to his moronic base if he shuts down the government. I don't believe his cognitive processing is sophisticated enough for him to come up with any other reason for acting like such an asshole.

J. Rubin at the Post nails it.

"Events moved in favor of Democrats today in the battle to gain leverage and cast blame for the looming shutdown, set to begin at 12:01 a.m. Saturday. For starters, it does not appear that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has 50, let alone the necessary 60 votes to pass the House bill. Republican Sens. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.) and Jeff Flake (Ariz.) say they will not vote for it; Rand Paul (Ky.) and Mike Lee (Utah), who disfavor short-term budget deals, may join them, as well.
In addition, the fantasy that an unpopular president with majorities of his party in the House and Senate could shift blame to Democrats has started to crumble. A Post-ABC poll found:
A 48 percent plurality says Trump and congressional Republicans are mainly responsible for the situation resulting from disagreements over immigration laws and border security, while 28 percent fault Democrats. A sizable 18 percent volunteer that both parties are equally responsible. Political independents drive the lopsided margin of blame, saying by a 46-to-25-percent margin that Republicans and Trump are responsible for the situation.
In addition to Trump’s and the GOP’s unpopularity, their handling of this episode surely contributed to their disadvantage in the blame game. Trump said he’d take any bipartisan deal to fix the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, but when given just such a deal, he blew up and lashed out at “shithole” countries. His insistence on the very unpopular wall contrasts with the overwhelming bipartisan support the “dreamers” have around the country. The perception that the president is erratic, unhelpful and maybe not following what’s going on also contributes to the sense that he’s to blame. And he is, of course, erratic, unhelpful and not following along, and therefore has contributed more than any other player to the chaos." WP

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.cb3ce0a8420c

Meanwhile, President Derp Drumpenfurher (aka dumbass Donnie) wants to go to his resort at Mar el Lago for a big shindig celebrating his first year in the White House before jetting off to Davos, Switzerland so he can crash the big 'One Tenth of One Percenter' party. :rolleyes:

I thought Trump, the great deal maker and negotiator, would keep the shut down from happening. 😏

This reinforces just how dysfunctional this Trump led GOP is at the moment. This shut down is more about how in one year the only real legislation passed by them was the give away tax cut to the rich! All other business of running this country never reached the desk for a signing ceremony. Total chaos and mismanagement on their part. It is about time the Democratic party took a stand.
The my way or the highway approach is more in line with a dictatorship them a democracy.






Barney

The conventional wisdom is that whoever blinks first loses here. This could go on and on and on.

And open the door to Trump taking 'emergency action.'

One the GOP will willingly accept my friend!



Barney

^^^ Thanks. One needs to know who one's friends are nowadays. ;)

What sort of emergency power can Trump have? Seems sort of vague. Purse strings are still under the control of the congress. From Wiki (FWIW)
Simply wondering what the possibilities are since other than yet another short term CR, there does not seem to be a compromise between the two parties as long as DACA is on the table.

The emergency powers of the President:

1. Constitutional: vague, by implication only.

2. Extra-constitutional: whatever he can get away with. To take a somewhat extreme example, he could declare the Democrats enemies of the people for sabotaging the government, arrest the Democratic members of congress, and then rule by decree with the rump Congress as a rubber stamp.

Outlandish, I grant you. Unthinkable? Nope, one can think it. We are dealing with a leader who disdains "norms," don't forget.

There is a reason why much of Americas deepest, most stubborn poverty lies in the Bible Belt. It has something to do with the way ignorance is worn like a badge of honor and being poor while refusing to ask for help from anyone, is perceived as a virtue. If you're the local rich guy who owns local businesses and wants a reliable supply of cheap, docile labor........it works out great. And your generous donations to the local clergy help to keep it that way. They'll make sure the congregation understands that rich guys who own businesses are blessed and sent by God. And therefore, not to be questioned.

Great post.