CNBC - The time for polite debate on gun control is over.
 

The time for polite debate on gun control is over.

Not that I don't agree, but this is the same thing we heard after columbine, after Sandy Hook and after the movie theater and the night club....

Those of us who want a ban on all hand guns, assault rifles, and any other auto-loading firearms, should and will keep saying it. Or maybe we will just move to some decent country like Austrailia or anywhere in the EU.

BTW - IMO, this is not about conservatives, Republican politicians, and/or the NRA. It's all about too many Americans who want their guns, in particular too many "liberals/Democrats" who love their guns. With guns and with healthcare, if every liberal Democrat rose up and demanded an automatic firearms ban and universal Medicare, we would have at least a 50/50 chance of getting both. Bit they won't, so we don't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting either.

It's on the people. It's always on the people. Donald Trump is on the people. Americans get the government they deserve.

The realistic bottom line, posted elsewhere;
http://thehill.com/opinion/national-...he-consequence

Perhaps. And if it is the only realistic bottom line...it would be the primary reason this country will never become what it might have been...and will remain the open sewer that it has become.

And...its only the consequence of freedom because of American culture. A culture that does not possess the maturity to be afforded a Second Amendment. What we have is a system of democratized gun carnage. If we really don't want that, it's easy enough to do. All it takes is a new Amendment. If the American people really want this to stop, the American people can stop it. Do Americans really want this carnage to stop? No...they do not.

Most people are reigned to the fact that there will never be any rational gun control legislation as long as the NRA (the real force is a little known organization called NSSF, National Shooting Sports Foundation which funds the NRA for being their mouthpiece) has the GOP and most southern states politicians.

Carnage happens, gun manufacturer's stock prices go up. Cannot even hurt their pocketbooks.

Blaming organizations and political parties and billionaires and PACS for the problems of the country let those who are responsible off the hook.

Americans have the country they deserve.

CNBC - The time for polite debate on gun control is over.
 

Right...... 😏

Those organizations have big money which gives them big voices in the matter.

This is the way I see how change will happen...
remember back to the Vietnam war? In the beginning the troops we sent over were (for the most part) individuals who had few other career/work options. Poor folk. Or, individuals who chose the army over jail. Sure, people complained about a war we had no business fighting, but their voices were ignored.
Then, they started using that lottery or number system.... I forget what it was called. All of a sudden, people with money and a bigger voice were sending their children off to war and bringing them home in coffins. That is when the political will began to change. Now senators and governors were speaking up about how wrong it was to be fighting as their own children were at stake.

That is how I see the gun issue. Nothing will change until those in power start to really feel the hurt. Til their child, their wife, their brother or sister is taken out by a semi automatic weapon at some public event.
So far, we have not reached that point.

Even then, it is so baked into our culture that nothing that could change the liability will change our puerile relationship with firearms.

As I recently posted in the Linda Sanchez thread...

When polled 90% of Americans regularly bleat that the Congress should be cleared out and we should start over with all new people. But when polled if that includes their US House rep, over 70% say, "Oh no! Not my rep...I love my rep!!!"

Intellectually lazy-ass Americans have exactly the country they deserve. Nothing will change until the people stop being quite so stupid.