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donquixote99 03-22-2014 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 204115)
Data provided by BLS does not get any clearer than that. A graphs is just a visual reference of the data on record with the BLS.

You can go round and round D-Ray I don't care. Im not on trial so Im not going to play your lawyer games you like to participate in. You should maybe spend your time Fact Checking the data. Maybe you can disprove it ya think?

However I doubt you or the fact checker will bother, it's not your agenda.
You are on trial, moron. If you come onto a discussion board and call other posters 'libtards' with things 'resinating' in their brains, you'd better expect what you're getting.

Facts are stubborn things. And they show Cruz's 'biggest lie' line is indeed a big lie--by Cruz.

d-ray657 03-22-2014 11:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 204115)
Data provided by BLS does not get any clearer than that. A graphs is just a visual reference of the data on record with the BLS.

You can go round and round D-Ray I don't care. Im not on trial so Im not going to play your lawyer games you like to participate in. You should maybe spend your time Fact Checking the data. Maybe you can disprove it ya think?

However I doubt you or the fact checker will bother, it's not your agenda.
In other words, you don't like having your assertions challenged. The alternative is that you are too ignorant to understand the difference between the source of data, and the editorial commentary on the data. The charts posted by Cruz include conjecture and partisan commentary. Yet you continue to insist that they are factual.

I will go with insecurity and ignorance.

4-2-7 03-22-2014 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 204109)
As a matter of fact I did look into the details on that graph..

http://books.google.com/books/prince...ffects&f=false

The published link goes to the Princeton publications page where one could buy the book, but also provides a google link that allows searching most of the book for free. My link above is to such a search. The answer to your questions about matching years to presidents is found on page 33, footnote 7. The data was lagged one year to best match the data to presidential tenure. Regression analysis was done to determine what lag best fit the data.

The work was not done by kids, moron.
Any way you look at his book it's twisting and manipulating stats. He said on one chart that he got it from
census bureau historical income tables

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/data/historical/

Good luck!!

4-2-7 03-22-2014 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657 (Post 204122)
In other words, you don't like having your assertions challenged. The alternative is that you are too ignorant to understand the difference between the source of data, and the editorial commentary on the data. The charts posted by Cruz include conjecture and partisan commentary. Yet you continue to insist that they are factual.

I will go with insecurity and ignorance.
They are not my assertions nor are they my statistics. This is the information linked in Fact checker. I just posted it because they failed to.

Now D-Ray go to BLS and disprove the stats on the charts. Then maybe you could call fact checker and tell him you found a lie.

Boreas 03-22-2014 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 203909)
They have there agenda so is it fact or just the way they want it perceived as fact by their followers.
Republicans? No shit!

OOPS! Blue got there first! ;)

John

donquixote99 03-22-2014 12:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 204123)
Any way you look at his book it's twisting and manipulating stats. He said on one chart that he got it from
census bureau historical income tables

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/data/historical/

Good luck!!

Why? Because you say so?

Show your analysis.





(He he--saying 'show your analysis' to you may be the funniest line I ever typed!)

donquixote99 03-22-2014 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 204125)
They are not my assertions nor are they my statistics. This is the information linked in Fact checker. I just posted it because they failed to.

Now D-Ray go to BLS and disprove the stats on the charts. Then maybe you could call fact checker and tell him you found a lie.
No they are not linked in Fact-Checker, moron.

This is the link you gave: http://www.jec.senate.gov/republican...arDisplay=2014

It goes to a Republican page. Fact-checker did not present that link.

Boreas 03-22-2014 12:20 PM
Do I have to start posting Tar Baby photos again? You guts are all just stuck in Neg. 5, responding to his insults and forgetting the subject of this thread. I know it's fun but is it what we're here for?

I mean, the guy's just spamming us with his illiterate bullshit. He's got nearly 1,500 posts and he's only been a member for a couple of months

John

4-2-7 03-22-2014 12:26 PM
Employment to Population Ratio BLS

http://data.bls.gov/generated_files/...d_M02_data.gif


Private Sector Job Gains Have Failed To Measure Up

Current Employment Statistics
Highlights
http://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/ceshighlights.pdf

81-89
http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/unit...mployment-rate
2008-2014

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/char...01&d2=20141231


1981-2014
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/char...01&d2=20141231


1981-1989

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/char...01&d2=19891231

Boreas 03-22-2014 12:28 PM
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4-2-7, 37
donquixote99, 18
bobabode, 18
BlueStreak, 12
d-ray657, 6
djv8ga, 3
Dondilion, 3
Boreas, 3


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