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finnbow 01-30-2019 06:58 PM

God Wanted Trump as President
 
“I think God calls all of us to fill different roles at different times, and I think that he wanted Donald Trump to become president and that’s why he’s there. And I think he has done a tremendous job in supporting a lot of the things that people of faith really care about.”

- Sarah Hillbilly Sanders

https://www.washingtonpost.com/relig...-be-president/

Chicks 01-30-2019 07:09 PM

OMG. Knuckle dragging neanderthal.

mpholland 01-30-2019 08:36 PM

Probably no other way for her brain to rationalize it.

Dondilion 01-31-2019 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mpholland (Post 376815)
Probably no other way for her brain to rationalize it.

So true!

An outsider, against great odds, defeats the anointed.

How else?... In God We Trust is exceedingly rational.

Oerets 01-31-2019 06:29 AM

Calvinism???

A corruption of the belief in God makes, wants the truly faithful prosper with earthly riches maybe?


Then there is this.
https://youtu.be/ejyRAIftnq4



“Millions of Americans,” declared Jeffress at a July 2017 event his First Baptist Church of Dallas sponsored in Washington, D.C., “believe the election of President Trump represented God giving us another chance—perhaps our last chance to truly make America great again.”


https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...esident-216537

Dondilion 01-31-2019 07:17 AM

Sanders is probably indicating that she understands that a major feature of governance is a declaration of belief in the spirit of God and that Devine Intervention is always a welcome tool.

Additionally who goes into battle without calling on, enlisting support of the Supreme one. Prayer is foremost, prayer is ubiquitous.

In modern times there are people who claim that part of the earth is given to them by God and they are celebrated and overwhelmingly supported by both sections of the US House.

Sarah possibly understands the tradition; a show, a declaration, is opportune.

Chicks 01-31-2019 11:36 AM

Trumpiness is next to Godliness :rolleyes:

donquixote99 01-31-2019 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 376816)
So true!

An outsider, against great odds, defeats the anointed.

How else?... In God We Trust is exceedingly rational.

No, it's very fallacious logic. Reasoning from faulty premises. Basically there are lots of reasons 'else.'

The premises here are "Hillary was 'anointed' and sure to win," and "Trump could only win by divine intervention." Then the conclusion follows "Trump won so a miracle occurred."

But I of course think neither premise is demonstrated. It's actually typical of the bad logic of people not educated to think clearly. Assert premises that give the answer you want, and don't examine them critically.

Dondilion 01-31-2019 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 376822)
No, it's very fallacious logic. Reasoning from faulty premises. Basically there are lots of reasons 'else.'

The premises here are "Hillary was 'anointed' and sure to win," and "Trump could only win by divine intervention." Then the conclusion follows "Trump won so a miracle occurred."

But I of course think neither premise is demonstrated. It's actually typical of the bad logic of people not educated to think clearly. Assert premises that give the answer you want, and don't examine them critically.

It does not need logics. All it needs is a veneer, a patina.

Sanders has gone back to basics.

donquixote99 01-31-2019 07:49 PM

Understand. I just object to a veneer or patina being thought of as 'exceedingly rational.'

Pio1980 01-31-2019 08:09 PM

She isn't Sarah Huckabee-ess for nothing.
(Thank you Jimmy Kimmel!)

donquixote99 01-31-2019 08:32 PM

Pronounced Sarah Hucka-be-ESS.

Dondilion 01-31-2019 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 376826)
Understand. I just object to a veneer or patina being thought of as 'exceedingly rational.'

The use of religion in governance/politics is exceedingly rational. However the religious argument need not be logical; it only needs a veneer of logic.

donquixote99 01-31-2019 09:34 PM

Viewed as an amoral, Machiavellian tactic....

Dondilion 01-31-2019 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 376830)
Viewed as an amoral, Machiavellian tactic....

Indeed. But then all serious parties wittingly or unwittingly yield to or promote religious trappings.

Sanders has now decided that it is time to explicitly wrap her leader in religious garment. I guess she understands that a serious argument against any system/movement is that it is godless.

bobabode 02-01-2019 12:45 AM

God wouldn't be caught within 50,000 light years of Cadet Spanky McBonespurs.

Dondilion 02-01-2019 05:47 AM

What is McBonespurs most egregious act?

Is he a King Leopold 11, a Pol Pot, a Stalin, a Hitler?
The nominal inference here is that he is a draft dodger.

So far: Basically a showman with an isolationist view.

nailer 02-01-2019 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 376812)
“I think God calls all of us to fill different roles at different times, and I think that he wanted Donald Trump to become president and that’s why he’s there. And I think he has done a tremendous job in supporting a lot of the things that people of faith really care about.”

- Sarah Hillbilly Sanders

https://www.washingtonpost.com/relig...-be-president/

Trump's victory is God's punishment for our amorality.

nailer 02-01-2019 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 376834)
What is McBonespurs most egregious act?

Is he a King Leopold 11, a Pol Pot, a Stalin, a Hitler?
The nominal inference here is that he is a draft dodger.

So far: Basically a showman with an isolationist view.

Beating Hillary.

The popular choice here and elsewhere would be Hitler. Mussolini works for me. :cool:

He's also a rude crude dude and a fairly astute politician based on the midterms.

HarmanKardon 02-02-2019 02:35 AM

Sarah Goebbels Sanders is a genius of playing on the mental piano of primitive people - the voters who enable eight years of Trump presidency...

Sieg Heil!

JCricket 02-06-2019 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailer (Post 376836)
Trump's victory is God's punishment for our amorality.

That almost makes me believe in God. No other explanation for it...........

Pio1980 02-06-2019 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 376837)
Beating Hillary.

The popular choice here and elsewhere would be Hitler. Mussolini works for me. :cool:

He's also a rude crude dude and a fairly astute politician based on the midterms.

As I said elsewhere, Trump is the bratty obnoxious kid the redneck parents bring to the nice restaurant to spite the patrons. He's the ugly American "coal roller" demagogue. It was and is about spite, and for the Party, the courts.
Those are the Republican values that rise to the top of this ethical cesspool after all is said and done.

Pio1980 02-06-2019 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JCricket (Post 376971)
That almost makes me believe in God. No other explanation for it...........

A good justification for agnosticism.

donquixote99 02-06-2019 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 376979)
A good justification for agnosticism.

Actually, if true, I'd call "God wanted Trump as President" a good justification for Satanism (if I believed in either of them).

finnbow 02-14-2019 09:50 AM

Nearly half of Republicans think God wanted Trump to be president...More than half of white evangelical Protestants — 55 percent — said that God endorsed Trump. Only 3 in 10 evangelicals said categorically that they didn’t think Trump had God’s explicit support in the election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...-be-president/

If Evangelicals think that Trump is divinely inspired, I suppose that helps explain why his most devout supporters will never abandon him. Crazy shit.

Dondilion 02-14-2019 09:59 AM

Nothing crazy here. Trump reinforced his biblical image by recognizing Jerusalem.

finnbow 02-14-2019 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 377103)
Nothing crazy here. Trump reinforced his biblical image by recognizing Jerusalem.

This really was mostly a meaningless step by Trump. For all practical purposes, the embassy remains in Tel Aviv. Meanwhile, the "embassy" in Jerusalem (former consulate) doesn't function as an embassy because it doesn't yet meet the physical and signals security requirements of an embassy (as the former embassy in Tel Aviv does.). Accordingly, nearly all of our diplomatic staff remain in Tel Aviv.

Dondilion 02-14-2019 01:52 PM

Means a lot in terms of Bible.

Chicks 02-14-2019 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 377102)
Nearly half of Republicans think God wanted Trump to be president...More than half of white evangelical Protestants — 55 percent — said that God endorsed Trump. Only 3 in 10 evangelicals said categorically that they didn’t think Trump had God’s explicit support in the election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...-be-president/

If Evangelicals think that Trump is divinely inspired, I suppose that helps explain why his most devout supporters will never abandon him. Crazy shit.

It’s Time to Start Calling Evangelicals What They Are: The American Taliban

https://medium.com/@jcweatherby_4941...n-4a41731296e4

Not just crazy, also dangerous.

finnbow 02-14-2019 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 377112)
Means a lot in terms of Bible.

I don't think the Bible has a single word in it about the location of the US Embassy in Judea.:confused:

Dondilion 02-14-2019 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 377115)
I don't think the Bible has a single word in it about the location of the US Embassy in Judea.:confused:

You miss the significance, the power of Jerusalem.

finnbow 02-14-2019 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 377120)
You miss the significance, the power of Jerusalem.

Having been to Jerusalem twice and having a son who currently works out of the embassy/consulate in Tel Aviv, I understand Jerusalem pretty well. The fact remains that the embassy "move" was symbolic and not substantive - kinda like every the Dotard does.

Chicks 02-14-2019 06:06 PM

Man, I loved Tel Aviv. Such great architecture, beautiful city.

https://www.dezeen.com/2016/08/24/10...-architecture/

finnbow 02-14-2019 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 377122)
Man, I loved Tel Aviv. Such great architecture, beautiful city.

https://www.dezeen.com/2016/08/24/10...-architecture/

People who haven't been there have no idea how modern, cosmopolitan and secular Tel Aviv is. Jerusalem, OTOH, is none of those, yet a fantastically interesting place. My son lived in Tel Aviv for three years and just returned there last month for an 18 month assignment after receiving an offer he couldn't refuse.

Dondilion 02-14-2019 07:50 PM

To the religious crowd Tel Aviv pales in comparison to Jerusalem.

And it is not only a physical connection.

finnbow 02-15-2019 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 377124)
To the religious crowd Tel Aviv pales in comparison to Jerusalem.

And it is not only a physical connection.

And conversely, secular Israelis (a plurality) absolutely despise the ultra-orthodox Haredim in their midst.

BlueStreak 02-16-2019 01:22 AM

Oh, so it was "God", was it? What an absolute crock of shyte. We're stuck with this overgrown used car salesmen because the check mailing Evangelical nincompoops were commanded by their imaginary friend to support him? That's as absurd as appointment to supreme executive power by farcical aquatic ceremony. Seriously? The people who tithe 10% to the Jesus Tax so their multimillionaire pastor can buy a bizjet to escape demonic cacophony on commercial airliners are now guiding our nations destiny?

We're fucked.

In a decade we will have 10 trillionaires and 360,000,000 peasants who are thankful that "God" has blessed them with a job that provides them their very own pup tent and a daily bucket of gruel. "We're poor but it's alright. We still have each other, Praise Jesus.".

Where is that "Puke" emoticon?

Jack Horner 03-05-2019 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 377121)
Having been to Jerusalem twice and having a son who currently works out of the embassy/consulate in Tel Aviv, I understand Jerusalem pretty well. The fact remains that the embassy "move" was symbolic and not substantive - kinda like every the Dotard does.

I had no idea. Very interesting. And it's very true that most of what Trump does is symbolic and not substantive. Thanks for the post.

Chicks 03-05-2019 09:55 PM

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finnbow 03-27-2019 06:22 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2omCKuU8AAVOm9.jpg


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