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finnbow 10-07-2023 09:19 AM

Hamas Attack in Israel
 
Huge attack on Israel from Gaza. Israeli Defense Forces and intelligence agencies caught with their pants down. Thankfully, my son and his wife completed their State Dept rotation there last year. Iran certainly is playing a role in this (and likely Russia as well).

Chicks 10-07-2023 04:45 PM

Pence slams Trump, GOP ‘voices of appeasement’ as Israel comes under attack
The former vice president called out Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis and Vivek Ramaswamy by name.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/1...ttack-00120481

Good for you, Mikey!

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Former Vice President Mike Pence tore into Donald Trump and pointed to isolationism in the Republican Party as complicit in the sweeping Hamas attack on Israel, decrying American “retreat on the world stage.”

In a scathing rebuke, Pence faulted “voices of appeasement like Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy and Ron DeSantis that I believe have run contrary to the tradition in our party that America is the leader of the free world.”

Pence’s comments in Iowa represented the first ripple in the Republican primary from the violence that erupted on Saturday — and effectively threw down a challenge to Republicans he said have “embraced the language of isolationism and appeasement.”

finnbow 10-07-2023 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 424935)
Pence slams Trump, GOP ‘voices of appeasement’ as Israel comes under attack
The former vice president called out Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis and Vivek Ramaswamy by name.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/1...ttack-00120481

Good for you, Mikey!


While it is perhaps satisfying to hear those clowns criticized, Pence appeased Trump at every turn. Moreover, Hamas does not respond to American domestic politics. If this is on anyone, it is on Bibi, Putin and the Iranian mullahs.

RickeyM 10-07-2023 07:51 PM

So Mikey was making political points? When you can't attack the message you attack the messenger. The attacks will commence on Sunday morning news shows. Except for prisoner number P01135809. He may begin his raging in the wee hours of Sunday morning.

Dondilion 10-08-2023 04:10 AM

So everyone is to be blamed for Israel's massive intelligence failure.

Ike Bana 10-08-2023 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 424949)
So everyone is to be blamed for Israel's massive intelligence failure.

Dondi wants the Jews driven into the sea. Big surprise from the Trumper who has no problem with alt-right traitors dismantling of the US intelligence services. So, according to Dondi, the reason this happened, all the blame for it should be directed at the failure of Israeli intelligence services, because we all know that Israel is surrounded by pacifists who all want peace.

FEH! That's yiddish for feh.

Dondilion 10-08-2023 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 424954)
Dondi wants the Jews driven into the sea. Big surprise from the Trumper who has no problem with alt-right traitors dismantling of the US intelligence services. So, according to Dondi, the reason this happened, all the blame for it should be directed at the failure of Israeli intelligence services, because we all know that Israel is surrounded by pacifists who all want peace.

FEH! That's yiddish for feh.

As so often you dodge the essence. The intelligence failure, I repeat was massive.

RickeyM 10-08-2023 08:21 AM

Let the finger pointing begin!

Ike Bana 10-08-2023 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 424959)
As so often you dodge the essence. The intelligence failure, I repeat was massive.

The essence is that Israel is surrounded by terrorists. Liberals in this country and in the Israeli Knesset want to blame the state of Israel for the conditions in Gaza. The conditions in Gaza are the responsibility of Hamas...a terrorist organization that has money that could be used to improve conditions for the people under their control. Money that goes elsewhere...money that goes to terrorism.

Was a failure of intelligence blamed on the WTC/Pentagon attacks in 2001? Fuck no...Al Qaeda was blamed. And rightly so. There was pissing and moaning about substandard airport/airline security which was addressed. And which the stupid American people have been ragging and scowling about for over 20 years. Remember Jackie Mason, "The TSA is great at catching old Jews with keys."

The essence is religious fanatical hate and terrorism. Seems to me that along with the people of this country, the people of Gaza are getting exactly the kind of government they deserve.

Ike Bana 10-08-2023 09:04 AM

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Just days ago, I warned that there is a danger that they will confuse the character of the American people for so many of our political leaders, and make a deadly miscalculation.

What is it that Hamas saw in Israel over the last year? What did the Iranians see? Why did they pick this moment? Why now?

They saw division and chaos caused by the ego of one man, Benjamin Netanyahu. - Steve Schmidt 10/8/23
Benjamin Netanyau...Schmidt reminding us that Netanyahu is the Trump of Israel...dismantling critical parts of the government of Israel for his personal gain.


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