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Old 05-15-2012, 01:12 PM
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"Romney successfully led one most liberal states in the union as governor for four years."

Yes, especially what he did with their healthcare. I hear it's very popular. Maybe the same should be done on a natio..........Oh.
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Old 05-15-2012, 01:26 PM
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"Romney successfully led one most liberal states in the union as governor for four years."

Yes, especially what he did with their healthcare. I hear it's very popular. Maybe the same should be done on a natio..........Oh.
Obama didn't quite get that right now did he?... and now it very well might be declared unconstitutional. We need some kind of health care reform and I'm all for universal coverage - done right. Most people don't understand the details. Obama rammed his plan down everyone's throats and it was put in with some obvious holes in the design and they tried to sell it with a bunch of lies and misrepresentations. Obama and his folks simply take people for stupid.

Romney's plan for Massachusetts didn't mandate everyone to buy government health insurance, it provided disincentives for not doing so - like forfeit of one's personal tax exemption for not having insurance among other things. Romney inherited a multi-billion dollar deficit when he took office in Mass and ran surpluses for his last 2 years in office. Given that the state went back to running deficits after he left office, he struck a balance there of raising money through licensing fees (basically equivalent to excise taxes) and cutting state spending to achieve his deficits. His whole time in office the state legislature was (and still is) a large majority Democrat. So he had to deal across the aisle on everything. Even with the state leg overturning a lot of his initiatives, and Romney's only power sometime being the veto, he got a lot done for Mass in his 4 years and handed Patrick a state in much better shape financially than it was in when Romney took office.

Romney isn't the conservative dream, but he's what this country needs right now, Obama was never what it needed... he just misrepresented himself as being what the country needed and he's still doing it because he's really got nothing else but more misrepresentation to offer.

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Old 05-15-2012, 01:33 PM
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"Romney's plan for Massachusetts didn't mandate everyone to buy government health insurance, it provided disincentives for not doing so - like forfeit of one's personal tax exemption for not having insurance among other things."

Ha, ha, ha, ha........

What's the difference?

Your still punishing someone for not doing as they're told.

I'd call that a mandate.
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Old 05-15-2012, 01:51 PM
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"Romney's plan for Massachusetts didn't mandate everyone to buy government health insurance, it provided disincentives for not doing so - like forfeit of one's personal tax exemption for not having insurance among other things."

Ha, ha, ha, ha........

What's the difference?

Your still punishing someone for not doing as they're told.

I'd call that a mandate.
It makes it a choice with financial disincentives rather than a fine for breaking the law. Just one example. The Obama health care bill is sloppy and full of problems like this and worse. Obama's personal input appears to have been minimal. He's too elite to get his hands dirty with the details. His job is to take the credit if it's successful and distance himself if it's not. He doesn't have a stake in anything. Romney fought out details of the legislation at nearly every turn and personally mediated to get things passed in the end. His approach will be a refreshing change. He has a record of advocating tolerance on social issues as well and I'm pretty sure that if he all of the sudden decided to support something like same sex marriage he wouldn't be going around bragging that he is single handedly leading the revolution of social change in America the way Obama is bragging now.
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