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08-13-2012, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rex E.
My quote about mezz has nothing to do with that but I'll answer.
Jay, many things have happened over the past three years. I thought Romney would be a good choice a few years back. Then I thought it would be interesting for him to get the nomination just to see how all the "good ol'boy's" would deal with having to choose between a "cultist non-Christian" and a black man.
For my family and it's future I do not see how Romney and for sure how Ryan will be a positive. Maybe you can help point me in the direction? I'm not sure how making sure the ultra rich are taken care of will help me or my family.
Now, you of all folks should know this is no snap decision for me. It's been a long process of research and deduction. I'm not rich, my folks are not rich and I'll most likely never be rich (I don't play the lotteries or gamble) so how will continuing to vote for folks that only care about the rich and the rich getting richer going to benefit my family and myself?
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Wow. I'm from Massachusetts and I lived here while Romney was governor. You know I never saw any evidence of this 'taking care of the ultra rich' of which you speak. Could the Obama campaign be telling lies???? Naaawww. Romney must be as evil as they say he is.
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08-13-2012, 09:07 PM
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Time for mezz to go back to the kids table.
Copy and paste will not cut it here. That is called plagerism in the real world and will get you removed from a job or an academic institution. It should get you removed from here as well.
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I concur for what it's worth.
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08-13-2012, 09:15 PM
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Wow. I'm from Massachusetts and I lived here while Romney was governor. You know I never saw any evidence of this 'taking care of the ultra rich' of which you speak. Could the Obama campaign be telling lies???? Naaawww. Romney must be as evil as they say he is.
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In case you haven't noticed, Romney's campaign makes no mention of his time as MA's governor, a time in which he passed Romneycare and was pro-choice, among other egregious sins (to the current GOP).
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08-13-2012, 09:21 PM
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You've got the last sentence right Mezz. Maybe since you were seven years old when Romney was governor is why you couldn't see his true colors. Don't feel alone in this because Romney has made it abundantly clear to anyone capable of critical thinking that he's the biggest liar ever to make a bid for the White House. A lot of people have called him a flip flopper, myself included, but in retrospect it's simpler than that. He's a compulsive liar and yes that does make him evil when he wants the most prestigeous and powerful job in the country
(if not the world.)
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08-13-2012, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mezz
Wow. I'm from Massachusetts and I lived here while Romney was governor. You know I never saw any evidence of this 'taking care of the ultra rich' of which you speak. Could the Obama campaign be telling lies???? Naaawww. Romney must be as evil as they say he is.
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Well mezz, I'd consider a vote for that Mitt and have been all along as Jay mentioned. Since he's decided to align himself with the fringe element of the right wing, instead of the moderate he really is, then I'll not consider him a viable candidate.
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08-13-2012, 09:36 PM
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Damn. I wouldn't vote for the only guy whose authored a budget since 2009 either. Doing nothing has been so much better for the country.
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08-13-2012, 09:50 PM
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Damn. I wouldn't vote for the only guy whose authored a budget since 2009 either. Doing nothing has been so much better for the country.
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The Tea Party members of Congress have gone out of there way to make sure nothing gets done in this country for the past two years. Will you be supporting them and their fellow members running this year?
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08-14-2012, 12:23 AM
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Unless you are David Frum you should use quotation marks when you copy and paste.
I am not wasting my time bothering with blogger bullshit.
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Where did the Mezz text originate? Now that Fareed Zackairia just got suspended for his plagiarism, I'm curious.
Here's Zackaria's:
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Here’s something that suggests a lack of intelligence: plagiarism. Cam Edwards at NRANews.com suggested to me that Zakaria seemed to plagiarize a paragraph from an April article in The New Yorker magazine -- with a modicum word-usage changes and interjections (Texas!) in an attempt to paper it over. Here’s a paragraph from his Time piece:
Adam Winkler, a professor of constitutional law at UCLA, documents the actual history in Gunfight: The Battle over the Right to Bear Arms in America. Guns were regulated in the U.S. from the earliest years of the Republic. Laws that banned the carrying of concealed weapons were passed in Kentucky and Louisiana in 1813. Other states soon followed: Indiana in 1820, Tennessee and Virginia in 1838, Alabama in 1839 and Ohio in 1859. Similar laws were passed in Texas, Florida and Oklahoma. As the governor of Texas (Texas!) explained in 1893, the "mission of the concealed deadly weapon is murder. To check it is the duty of every self-respecting, law-abiding man."
Compare that in its organization to this paragraph from a Jill Lepore New Yorker article from April:
As Adam Winkler, a constitutional-law scholar at U.C.L.A., demonstrates in a remarkably nuanced new book, “Gunfight: The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America,” firearms have been regulated in the United States from the start. Laws banning the carrying of concealed weapons were passed in Kentucky and Louisiana in 1813, and other states soon followed: Indiana (1820), Tennessee and Virginia (1838), Alabama (1839), and Ohio (1859). Similar laws were passed in Texas, Florida, and Oklahoma. As the governor of Texas explained in 1893, the “mission of the concealed deadly weapon is murder. To check it is the duty of every self-respecting, law-abiding man."
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-gra...#ixzz23Um4xOmw
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BTW, I find it far less acceptable that an educated, worldly, top flight and paid journalist would partake in the endeavor than someone posting on an online forum. Should Zackaria lose his job?
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08-14-2012, 01:11 AM
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[QUOTE=bhunter;116756]"Where did the Mezz text originate?" Here.
"Now that Fareed Zackairia just got suspended for his plagiarism, I'm curious.
BTW, I find it far less acceptable that an educated, worldly, top flight and paid journalist would partake in the endeavor than someone posting on an online forum. Should Zackaria lose his job?"
Yeah, Zackaria probably should lose his job - it's a shame too. One who plagiarizes here simply loses credibility - assuming that the person had any credibility to begin with. What was telling in this instance, is that the poster was asked for something more specific than flame-throwing, and what followed was the unattributed cut and past job.
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08-14-2012, 03:27 AM
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I'm always intrigued when someone stakes the claim to the moral high ground of 'truth' when they are merely stating their opinion.
With respect to Romney's tenure as Massachusetts governor it would have been awfully difficult for him to go hard to the right since the Mass legislature is overwhelmingly Democratic. As I stated in another thread, Romney is nobody's conservative. He is at best a moderate and at worst a pandering flip-flopper. Oh and my Mass creds? Born and raised in Boston, still have good (Republican and Democrat) friends and relatives there, own a very modest piece of property there.
And finally, I truly love it when someone characterizes another as 'stupid' simply because they share differing opinions but then again I guess that goes hand in hand with the 'truth' claim.
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