Joe the Plumber needs to shut his pie hole...

[Twodogs]

Originally Posted by bobabode

"We need to build the fence and start shooting!" says Joe 'Sam' The plumber. When asked later if he wanted to qualify or retract this position he declined. He was speaking in Arizona to a republican crowd at a campaign function for a fellow tea partyist. It didn't sound like they were too impressed with this idea.
Whaddya know?

Dude, I lived in Tempe for a year, and they are already shooting them, and sometimes while they are still in Mexico (50 cal sniper rifles). Do some youtube surfing on AZ Minutemen, they ain't playin, and neither are a lot of the Ranchers down there, ever since that one Rancher got kilted.

[Boreas]

And that's why JTP's audience didn't applaud. They were all thinking, "Shut the f#%&k up, man! You're going to get the GD law on us!"

John

[bobabode]

My friend, I doubt that you're in favor of vigilantes doin' their thing down there. I'm not advocating some wacky open border scheme and neither are any democrats that I've heard of. If we're talking about the narcos and their mules it's easy enough with the new drones to put a stop to that shit. I don't like those motherfuckers any more than you do but people desperate to escape those sumbitches in the bordertowns of Mexico deserve our pity not a round from a Barrett .50cal for trying to sneak into Arizona. Yeah, I saw "No Country For Old Men" too and the depiction of the druglords in that flick are probably true. If not worse but their market is here so it's a cross border problem of which American addicts are to blame in part for it. Shit it isn't safe to go backpacking in the California national forests in remote areas due to the narcos growing yours and my favorite herb. That is an easy thing to fix. We stopped the Canadian gangsters by repealing prohibition. We need to legalize weed and yes, tax it and regulate it. I know that a lot of my fellow tokers don't like that idea but tough shit. As long as there's a black market there will be gangsters.
Bring the marijuana growers and retailers out of the shadows and the cost goes way down and add a modest tax like we do on whiskey and it'll be much cheaper than it is now. You know that weed is a damn decent substitute for opiates, so that's two birds with one round from yer 20 guage. We will always have a certain amount of junkies but in Holland they've proven how to deal with the problem, successfully. There isn't any reason it won't work here.
If they throw my sorry ass in jail over this post, you had better put cigarette money in my commisary account Jay.
Long fuckin' post and I'm thirsty, buenos noche, mijo.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Twodogs

Dude, I lived in Tempe for a year, and they are already shooting them, and sometimes while they are still in Mexico (50 cal sniper rifles). Do some youtube surfing on AZ Minutemen, they ain't playin, and neither are a lot of the Ranchers down there, ever since that one Rancher got kilted.

When I lived in San Diego, 1983-'86 there were often shootings along the border. But, there is a difference between individuals taking it upon themselves to do such things and state or federal governments officially sanctioning it. When the government does it, there can be serious implications.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Twodogs

If you want an experienced opinion about protecting borders, ask an American Indian.

• We were intelligent enough to realize that building a fence around the entire country wasn't going to work.
  
• We're also great evidence that you can't kill enough interlopers to make it stop.
  
• Integration is going to occur, one way or another.

You are SO simplistic.

[Twodogs]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Did you lose another paycheck at that new Indian casino?

Dammit!

[Twodogs]

Originally Posted by bobabode

My friend, I doubt that you're in favor of vigilantes doin' their thing down there. I'm not advocating some wacky open border scheme and neither are any democrats that I've heard of. If we're talking about the narcos and their mules it's easy enough with the new drones to put a stop to that shit. I don't like those motherfuckers any more than you do but people desperate to escape those sumbitches in the bordertowns of Mexico deserve our pity not a round from a Barrett .50cal for trying to sneak into Arizona. Yeah, I saw "No Country For Old Men" too and the depiction of the druglords in that flick are probably true. If not worse but their market is here so it's a cross border problem of which American addicts are to blame in part for it. Shit it isn't safe to go backpacking in the California national forests in remote areas due to the narcos growing yours and my favorite herb. That is an easy thing to fix. We stopped the Canadian gangsters by repealing prohibition. We need to legalize weed and yes, tax it and regulate it. I know that a lot of my fellow tokers don't like that idea but tough shit. As long as there's a black market there will be gangsters.
Bring the marijuana growers and retailers out of the shadows and the cost goes way down and add a modest tax like we do on whiskey and it'll be much cheaper than it is now. You know that weed is a damn decent substitute for opiates, so that's two birds with one round from yer 20 guage. We will always have a certain amount of junkies but in Holland they've proven how to deal with the problem, successfully. There isn't any reason it won't work here.
If they throw my sorry ass in jail over this post, you had better put cigarette money in my commisary account Jay.
Long fuckin' post and I'm thirsty, buenos noche, mijo.

You know I'd bring you smokes and zoo cart money.
I didn't say I was for them, just that it was happening. My family got out of the Klan with my oldest brother. Kinda funny, he still has all the tattoos (white power and such).

Simplistict? Absolutely. Functioning member of society and tax payer? Yes on that too.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by bobabode

My friend, I doubt that you're in favor of vigilantes doin' their thing down there. I'm not advocating some wacky open border scheme and neither are any democrats that I've heard of. If we're talking about the narcos and their mules it's easy enough with the new drones to put a stop to that shit. I don't like those motherfuckers any more than you do but people desperate to escape those sumbitches in the bordertowns of Mexico deserve our pity not a round from a Barrett .50cal for trying to sneak into Arizona. Yeah, I saw "No Country For Old Men" too and the depiction of the druglords in that flick are probably true. If not worse but their market is here so it's a cross border problem of which American addicts are to blame in part for it. Shit it isn't safe to go backpacking in the California national forests in remote areas due to the narcos growing yours and my favorite herb. That is an easy thing to fix. We stopped the Canadian gangsters by repealing prohibition. We need to legalize weed and yes, tax it and regulate it. I know that a lot of my fellow tokers don't like that idea but tough shit. As long as there's a black market there will be gangsters.
Bring the marijuana growers and retailers out of the shadows and the cost goes way down and add a modest tax like we do on whiskey and it'll be much cheaper than it is now. You know that weed is a damn decent substitute for opiates, so that's two birds with one round from yer 20 guage. We will always have a certain amount of junkies but in Holland they've proven how to deal with the problem, successfully. There isn't any reason it won't work here.
If they throw my sorry ass in jail over this post, you had better put cigarette money in my commisary account Jay.
Long fuckin' post and I'm thirsty, buenos noche, mijo.

You really didn't stop them Seagram's just started putting labels on the bottles. Same deal back then, only reason there was so much boat traffic across the St.Lawrence was that stupid prohibition shit.

[merrylander]

So much for President Polk and Manifest Destiny.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Zeke

• We were intelligent enough to realize that building a fence around the entire country wasn't going to work.
  
• We're also great evidence that you can't kill enough interlopers to make it stop.
  
• Integration is going to occur, one way or another.

You are SO simplistic.

Originally Posted by Twodogs

Simplistict? Absolutely. Functioning member of society and tax payer? Yes on that too.

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