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Old 08-31-2012, 12:02 PM
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I think my signature sums it up in a nutshell.
Signatures are nice and all, but so far your posts have been pretty damn far to the Right. Time will tell, I suppose.

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Old 08-31-2012, 12:06 PM
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It seems like an eternity that I've been waiting for this RNC. I'm about as fired up as I can be. What an exciting time we have been blessed to live in folks. I'm looking forward to the debates as well. What makes folks like us love politics so much? Time for some supper and TeeVee!
All this excitement, I figured they hired a new stripper down the street.

I'm gonna go check it out.
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:10 PM
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Signatures are nice and all, but so far your posts have been pretty damn far to the Right. Time will tell, I suppose.

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Go back and read post 73. I make no apologies for leaning more to the conservative side, but there are some Republican philosophies I just can't wrap my head around. I am sure you will figure those out in time as well. One of my problems with both sides is that they are both so extremist anymore that I don't believe either is a real good choice.
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:14 PM
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Go back and read post 73. I make no apologies for leaning more to the conservative side, but there are some Republican philosophies I just can't wrap my head around. I am sure you will figure those out in time as well. One of my problems with both sides is that they are both so extremist anymore that I don't believe either is a real good choice.
True dat.

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Old 08-31-2012, 12:37 PM
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History tells us that when you get enough deadbeats to control the elections, you're doomed. I'd like to know how close we are right now.
Depends on what you define as deadbeats.

We have about 100M people receiving some sort of government benefit. That's a full 1/3 of the population.

When a record number of unemployed/underemployed show up to the polls and say hey, there are no jobs out here, I call that feedback. Something is askew with our structure.

That being said, there is also something askew with our work ethic. The following is a true story that I've told before but I don't recall if I have told it here.

When I graduated from high school I worked on farms for two years. Tree nurseries to be exact. My high school buddy and I, both rednecks, worked together one year at one of the nurseries. The work was all manual. If there was a powered implement involved then the owner ran it. Our tools were shovels and hoes exclusively.

Anyhow it was fun work. We all enjoyed it and always hung around after work to have a few beers with the owner and laugh while we watched the ducks f*ck. True story. We even went on fishing trips with the owner's son who worked right along with us.

The next year I stopped by the nursery for a visit. I found the owner sitting on the hood of his pickup at the edge of his field. Two young new workers were in the field hoeing just like my friend and I were responsible for the year before.

I asked the old man what was up. He was in a foul mood and gave me the story about he just didn't know what was wrong with kids anymore. He said he was pissed because he had to sit there all day and supervise them. If he left to take care of business the kids stopped working and threw dirt clods at each other.

The next year the Mexicans came in with full force. They took every farming job in the area and hustled. I can't blame the farmers for hiring them. After all something in the American work spirit seemed to have died around 1985 and I can't put my finger on what it was.

Maybe it was the push to go to college. I know my dad pushed me hard in that direction but I resisted at first. I also recall that was when robotics were coming on the scene, particularly in industrialized Detroit. A lot of my friends went to the community college to try and cash in on the robotics craze. I did the same thing but after my stints at the tree nurseries. I am glad I did it. Not many people can say anymore that they worked on a farm. It is also my understanding that farming isn't the same anymore now that big ag pulls all the strings.
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:45 PM
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It seems like an eternity that I've been waiting for this RNC. I'm about as fired up as I can be. What an exciting time we have been blessed to live in folks. I'm looking forward to the debates as well. What makes folks like us love politics so much? Time for some supper and TeeVee!
I feel that way when there is new gear on route to my doorstep.

Political conventions.........Blah.

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Old 08-31-2012, 01:01 PM
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I feel that way when there is new gear on route to my doorstep.

Political conventions.........Blah.

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Speaking of which -- I have some DIY woofer cabinets to paint. I'm pretty stoked and headed to the hardware store for some black . . . real speakers are black.
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Old 08-31-2012, 01:02 PM
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Go back and read post 73. I make no apologies for leaning more to the conservative side, but there are some Republican philosophies I just can't wrap my head around. I am sure you will figure those out in time as well. One of my problems with both sides is that they are both so extremist anymore that I don't believe either is a real good choice.
Please explain the extreme views in the Democratic Party you are talking about.

I see the difference being that the main stream GOP party is extreme now and the Democrats only have an extreme element.

Two very different things.
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Old 08-31-2012, 01:03 PM
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. real speakers are black.
Good post!

I knew you had it in you.
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Old 08-31-2012, 01:06 PM
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...something in the American work spirit seemed to have died around 1985 and I can't put my finger on what it was.
Reagan.

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