Current Administration Soft On Immigrants?

[icenine]

Originally Posted by whell

That "something called E-Verify" is a system rolled out in 1997 that attempts to use information in existing government records to verify an individual's right to work in the US. Immigration groups, and many employers don't like it for the same reason many of the forum members here didn't like the Arizona immigration law.

The system produces inaccurate results at a very significant rate. According to UCICS's own data, the system is only about 46 percent accurate. That means that when the system is unable to validate an individual's right to work (ie., an job applicant's name doesn't match their SSN), that individual must go the SSA office and have their ID verified. Since the system has a low accuracy rate, you can imagine the bad press it gets with legal immigrants, valid work VIsa holders, etc., not to mention illegals. It also adds to employer's time to hire, which lowers productivity.

So you are not for E-verify Whell...sounds like you identify a bit with both immigrants and employers....I feel a warm fuzzy lol.....

[d-ray657]

Wider use of the system will create greater opportunities to correct the flaws in the database. Workers who have taken steps to assure that they will pass E-Verify could command a higher wage, because the administrative cost for that worker will be diminished. If it becomes more difficult for employers to find workers who satisfy the E-Verify requirements (that is if employers have to actually comply with the law), there is less incentive to skirt the law in an effort to pay substandard wages. The more chance there is of employers getting caught, the fewer employers there will be cheating. When the hiring pool is shrunk to workers who can be legally hired - and when there are fewer workers who drag the wage rate by accepting substandard wages, workers might actually receive fair market value for their labor.

Regards,

D-Ray

[barbara]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Wider use of the system will create greater opportunities to correct the flaws in the database. Workers who have taken steps to assure that they will pass E-Verify could command a higher wage, because the administrative cost for that worker will be diminished. If it becomes more difficult for employers to find workers who satisfy the E-Verify requirements (that is if employers have to actually comply with the law), there is less incentive to skirt the law in an effort to pay substandard wages. The more chance there is of employers getting caught, the fewer employers there will be cheating. When the hiring pool is shrunk to workers who can be legally hired - and when there are fewer workers who drag the wage rate by accepting substandard wages, workers might actually receive fair market value for their labor.

Regards,

D-Ray

Precisely. Which is why the system has had the squash on it by those who have lots of money in the agriculture business.

[whell]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Wider use of the system will create greater opportunities to correct the flaws in the database. Workers who have taken steps to assure that they will pass E-Verify could command a higher wage, because the administrative cost for that worker will be diminished. If it becomes more difficult for employers to find workers who satisfy the E-Verify requirements (that is if employers have to actually comply with the law), there is less incentive to skirt the law in an effort to pay substandard wages. The more chance there is of employers getting caught, the fewer employers there will be cheating. When the hiring pool is shrunk to workers who can be legally hired - and when there are fewer workers who drag the wage rate by accepting substandard wages, workers might actually receive fair market value for their labor.

Regards,

D-Ray

I don't believe your statement is correct. The e-verify database is comprised of existing government data from sources such as SSA and DHS. Is that data is flawed, then increasing use will not necessarily correct the source of he errors, particularly if new errant data is is pulled from those other databases periodically as folks change names, are born and entered, etc. Sure data is corrected when individuals take steps to verify identity, but it seems more like a game of whack a mole. Add to that complications arising from identity theft, and it would seem that the accuracy of the system can only be improved to a certain point.

[d-ray657]

Certainly you're not advocating that employers disregard immigration law. If you believe that this method of enforcement is fatally flawed, what other ways do you suggest we strictly enforce the law that makes it illegal to employ undocumented aliens?

Regards,

D-Ray

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by icenine

Perception vs reality....seems the ICE is leaning hard on businesses that hire illegal immigrants by forcing them to use something called E-verify....so now the focus seems to be going after employees rather than the illegal workers they hire...

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,6490226.story

Immigration officials in Kansas city busted the owners two area hotels that were apparently using undocumented workers for half of their staff, paying them off the books, and paying them less. The owners stand to lose the properties as a result of their illegal activity.

Regards,

D-Ray

[bobabode]

Let me see if I've got this straight. So the racist punks known as Minutemen trolling our southern borders are Obama's union stooges trying to keep illegals out and wages up?

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Certainly you're not advocating that employers disregard immigration law. If you believe that this method of enforcement is fatally flawed, what other ways do you suggest we strictly enforce the law that makes it illegal to employ undocumented aliens?

Regards,

D-Ray

An electrified fence with a moat, a wall and machine gun nests?
Maybe Berlin has a second hand one they'll sell us real cheap. Whatever they have left that hasn't already sold on eBay, that is ...

[merrylander]

The SS number seems to work pretty well, the AEC managed to follow Florence all around the world both to see if she was stll alive and fear that she might be talking to a foreign government.

[whell]

It's the craziest thing. When pressed today in an interview in front of a Spanish speaking crowd, Obama blamed the increase in deportations on the Republicans. I guess he's not so tough on immigration after all.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories...470_Page2.html