Political Forums  

Go Back   Political Forums > Politics

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-03-2016, 06:33 PM
Tom Joad's Avatar
Tom Joad Tom Joad is offline
Persona non grata
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 12,654
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak View Post
You think Republicans, led by a cabal of billionaire capitalists, are going to go to a more SO(C)IALIST model?

Ha, Ha, Ha............
I already covered this.

Of course the Republican plan will fail too.

What it will do however is bring about a crash in the system, thereby opening up another opportunity to press for single payer.
__________________
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-03-2016, 06:40 PM
icenine's Avatar
icenine icenine is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: San Diego via Vermilion Ohio and Points Between
Posts: 11,538
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad View Post
I already covered this.

Of course the Republican plan will fail too.

What it will do however is bring about a crash in the system, thereby opening up another opportunity to press for single payer.
Thanks
What about the time span between the end of Obamacare and the start of single payer? How long does that take?
__________________
Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-03-2016, 06:49 PM
Tom Joad's Avatar
Tom Joad Tom Joad is offline
Persona non grata
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 12,654
Quote:
Originally Posted by icenine View Post
Thanks
What about the time span between the end of Obamacare and the start of single payer? How long does that take?
Beats the Hell out of me.

It's up to the proletariat.

However long it takes them to get tired of being fucked in the ass and revolt.
__________________
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-03-2016, 07:43 PM
finnbow's Avatar
finnbow finnbow is online now
Reformed Know-Nothing
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MoCo, MD
Posts: 25,917
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad View Post
Beats the Hell out of me.

It's up to the proletariat.

However long it takes them to get tired of being fucked in the ass and revolt.
I'd say most people are generally OK with their health insurance, both before and after Obamacare (provided they're employed, which the majority is). Nothing major is gonna happen. Some tweaks, including some nods to "free market economics" and presto - Trumpcare. A lot of Sturm und Drang getting there though.
__________________
As long as the roots are not severed, all will be well in the garden.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-03-2016, 07:52 PM
Tom Joad's Avatar
Tom Joad Tom Joad is offline
Persona non grata
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 12,654
Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow View Post
I'd say most people are generally OK with their health insurance, both before and after Obamacare (provided they're employed, which the majority is).
I'm sure it looks that way to a Boozhee Elitist like yourself, but its not sustainable in the long run.

The costs of providing such insurance has been sky rocking in comparison to wages and inflation. Some employers have chosen to eat these increases themselves, others are passing the costs along to employees, but either way a breaking point is inevitable.
__________________
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-03-2016, 08:06 PM
finnbow's Avatar
finnbow finnbow is online now
Reformed Know-Nothing
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MoCo, MD
Posts: 25,917
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad View Post
I'm sure it looks that way to a Boozhee Elitist like yourself, but its not sustainable in the long run.

The costs of providing such insurance has been sky rocking in comparison to wages and inflation. Some employers have chosen to eat these increases themselves, others are passing the costs along to employees, but either way a breaking point is inevitable.
I don't disagree, but that doesn't mean that most (full-time employed) people aren't generally happy with their current coverage. Therein lies the rub. Change is essential, but people don't want the government making changes to the current status quo if they're generally happy with their insurance.
__________________
As long as the roots are not severed, all will be well in the garden.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-04-2016, 08:02 AM
Tom Joad's Avatar
Tom Joad Tom Joad is offline
Persona non grata
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 12,654
Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow View Post
I don't disagree, but that doesn't mean that most (full-time employed) people aren't generally happy with their current coverage. Therein lies the rub. Change is essential, but people don't want the government making changes to the current status quo if they're generally happy with their insurance.
Well I've had single payer for four and a half years ever since I went on Medicare but that doesn't stop me from wanting it expanded to cover all citizens.

But then I'm not a self centered Bourgeoisie Elitist like you and Ice are.
__________________
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-04-2016, 07:42 AM
BlueStreak's Avatar
BlueStreak BlueStreak is offline
Area Man
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 27,407
Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow View Post
I'd say most people are generally OK with their health insurance, both before and after Obamacare (provided they're employed, which the majority is). Nothing major is gonna happen. Some tweaks, including some nods to "free market economics" and presto - Trumpcare. A lot of Sturm und Drang getting there though.
Yeah, pretty much. A lot of bellowing and fanfare but little substance.
__________________
"When the lie is so big and the fog so thick, the Republican trick can play out again....."-------Frank Zappa
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-03-2016, 09:21 PM
icenine's Avatar
icenine icenine is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: San Diego via Vermilion Ohio and Points Between
Posts: 11,538
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad View Post
Beats the Hell out of me.

It's up to the proletariat.

However long it takes them to get tired of being fucked in the ass and revolt.
That's a pretty sophisticated philosophy you got going on there.
__________________
Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor in the future shall any of us cease to be.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-03-2016, 09:37 PM
finnbow's Avatar
finnbow finnbow is online now
Reformed Know-Nothing
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MoCo, MD
Posts: 25,917
Quote:
Originally Posted by icenine View Post
That's a pretty sophisticated philosophy you got going on there.
He just likes talking dirty. That's what drew him to Trump.
__________________
As long as the roots are not severed, all will be well in the garden.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:11 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.