$50 a bulb??

[whell]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

It needs to be attacked on all fronts. Gas mileage needs to be improved; electricity usage needs to be decreased; habits have to be changed.

If this move toward more energy efficient lighting is not important, do you think the government could have withstood the pressure from lobbyists? Advertising has encouraged excessive usage of energy for years. Advertising is just a more subtle means of directing people's behavior. It requires stronger measures to respond.

I changed to CFD's more than five years ago. Even though I use the average pay plan for my electric bill, it did not take long to notice the improvement. Our bill went down as the rates were going up. Got another big chunk of savings when we replaced our old heater and air conditioner with a heat pump and a three stage gas heater. With the regular rate increases, I would hate to see what our electric bill would be now.

The headline for the $50 light bulb just so much hyperbole. As the cited article shows, as the market expands, and technology improves, the price of the bulbs will drop.

Regards,

D-Ray

So we should leverage government regs to force the issue at the expense of US jobs? Also, it would appear the lobby was in favor of this.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/op-eds...s-factory-jobs

[JonL]

Originally Posted by whell

So we should leverage government regs to force the issue at the expense of US jobs?

Without looking at the link, and even taking this quote totally out of context, I would say... "depends." Many issues, including energy consumption, are complex. Sometimes it may be appropriate to sacrifice some US jobs for the sake of the nation as a whole. On the other hand, actions that sacrifice US jobs simply to increase corporate profits and enrich the CEOs and stock market speculators should be vigorously discouraged through the use of public pressure, market pressure, and - where necessary - by regulation and tax policy.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by JonL

Without looking at the link, and even taking this quote totally out of context, I would say... "depends." Many issues, including energy consumption, are complex. Sometimes it may be appropriate to sacrifice some US jobs for the sake of the nation as a whole. On the other hand, actions that sacrifice US jobs simply to increase corporate profits and enrich the CEOs and stock market speculators should be vigorously discouraged through the use of public pressure, market pressure, and - where necessary - by regulation and tax policy.

Woomp, there it is!!!!!!

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by JonL

Without looking at the link, and even taking this quote totally out of context, I would say... "depends." Many issues, including energy consumption, are complex. Sometimes it may be appropriate to sacrifice some US jobs for the sake of the nation as a whole. On the other hand, actions that sacrifice US jobs simply to increase corporate profits and enrich the CEOs and stock market speculators should be vigorously discouraged through the use of public pressure, market pressure, and - where necessary - by regulation and tax policy.

The major problem with the sacrifice of US jobs is that even the GE incandescents are made in China now and they are crap, plain and simply crap. That is why I thank God for Sylvania.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by whell

So we should leverage government regs to force the issue at the expense of US jobs? Also, it would appear the lobby was in favor of this.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/op-eds...s-factory-jobs

Of course that two year old article did not mention that American companies are working to LED based bulbs. Let's see - a new technology - American manufacturers. Damn those government regulations!!!

Regards,

D-Ray

[HatchetJack]

I replaced 95% of the bulbs in my home several years back with the cfl bulbs.
While most of them are still working, I'm still not sold they are cheaper to
operate. They get hot as fire around the transformer base and I swear my
power bill went up instead of down? Think of the energy being wasted
everyday by all the dc transformers in everyone's home. From the pencil
sharpner to the cordless phones those are phantom power leaches.