A question for Republicans

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

Rush is just a shock jock. I dont think many republicans even listen to his
rants.

About15 million per week. In the 2008 election, Obama got ~70 million votes and McCain got ~60 million. So, 15 million isn't exactly chump change. Like it or not (I don't) his voice has a large impact. Why else do GOP politicians go back to Rush begging for forgiveness if they say something mildly critical (and truthful) about him.

Back on topic. Another way of stating this question (if I may, not being the OP), is why is it that the Republicans seem happy allowing Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, et al. to be their public face/spokesmen? I think it has to do with the fact that the GOP can hide behind their tasteless, untruthful, but effective messages. Why send out Boehner to stir up the faithful (yawn)when Rush and Co. are so effective at doing it? They can benefit from his propoganda while appearing to take "the high road."

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

RUSH
"the republicans are morons out to cut my social security and they are
the root of all evil and everything thats wrong with this country"
RUSH
"THE DEMOCRATS ARE OUT TO DESTROY THE FREE MARKET ENTERPRISE
IN THIS COUNTRY"

There, now you dont have to listen in today

Thank God and Jack for that! (A bad ripoff of a country music title) Of course I have to worry about tuning in to Rush as much as I have to worry about being attacked by Martians.

Regards,

D-Ray

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Global climate change has made this into a tiny little iceberg.

Lmao!!

Pete

[merrylander]

Guess the TV in your area is different, I don't see Obama getting a free ride of any sort. Not being a Republican I can't answer any of the rest. As to all reporters being Democrats that's another popular myth, used to deflect honest criticism.

[piece-itpete]

This is interesting:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19113455/

Pete

[doucanoe]

From the June 7 edition of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews:

MATTHEWS: How did you manage to get Francine Busby the Democratic nomination in that seat?

MEHLMAN: We didn't -- we wouldn't have anything to do with that, but look --

MATTHEWS: What did you make -- we just showed the tape, David Shuster just showed that tape of a woman candidate in the United States openly advising people in this country illegally to vote illegally.

MEHLMAN: It sounds like she may have been an adviser to that Washington state candidate for governor or some other places around the country where this has happened in other cases with Democrats.

But the fact is, one thing we know, the American people believe that legal voters should vote and they believe that their right to vote ought to be protected from people that don't have the right to vote.

[...]

MATTHEWS: This woman, this candidate of the Democratic Party came out and told Hispanic voters go ahead and vote, you don't need papers. She was encouraging illegal voting right on -- we heard it on the mike.

CHARLIE COOK [editor of the newsletter The Cook Political Report]: Either it encouraged it or it sounded awfully close to it, but it was a stupid thing to say. And to be honest, she was running basically even, even slightly ahead in the polls going into that statement. Frankly, I think it blew the race wide open.

MATTHEWS: Hey, you're being kind. She said you don't need papers. What else could she have meant?

COOK: Oh, no, no, no, no, I'm just, you know.

MATTHEWS: She was urging people to break the law. They are breaking law getting in the country. Now she says break the law again by voting, and she's carrying the banner of the Democratic Party.

COOK: It was a stupid thing to say.

MATTHEWS: She's running again in November.

COOK: Here's the danger for Democrats. This is the best political mood for them since Watergate. And yet, they don't have that many really good candidates around the country. They've got a lot of people that are fairly inexperienced candidates, like Francine Busby, who are capable of screwing up even when they've got a golden opportunity to win. And you just saw it.

MATTHEWS: Hey, look. If I were writing the Republican platform right now, I'd take that quote from her on tape and use it in all those races out there and say, "The Democratic Party believes in voting illegal immigrants to get more votes."


To paraphrase a member here with my own embelishment, "If I hear another individual talking about how Bush won the 2000 election by vote tampering I'm going to put a gun to my head"

RC

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by doucanoe

To paraphrase a member here with my own embelishment, "If I hear another individual talking about how Bush won the 2000 election by vote tampering I'm going to put a gun to my head"

RC

well leave the gun alone but anyone who thinks he did not, well just wants to believe that.

[d-ray657]

That transcript can't be accurate. Someone from that left-wing tool MSNBC was actually blasting a Democratic candidate for office? Say it ain't so.

Back OT, I know that the Democratic party has screwed up in many ways. I also know that it is a somewhat diverse party. The point of my question is that those who are most visible as speaking for the GOP seem to have a particularly anti-government, anti-tax, somewhat vicious line. Do mainstream Republicans think that those people are speaking for them?

Regards,

D-Ray

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by doucanoe

To paraphrase a member here with my own embelishment, "If I hear another individual talking about how Bush won the 2000 election by vote tampering I'm going to put a gun to my head"

RC

So you're equating the public statement (which were publicly discussed and roundly condemned) of one stupid and unsuccessful Democratic candidate for public office with a secret and systematic campaign of voter disenfranchisement, voter suppression, vote flipping, judicial malfeasance and harrassment of public officials?

Give me a break.

John

[doucanoe]

I guess my point is...


* Bush, Florida 2000
* Franken in MN
* This gal
* Phyllis Kahn calling for 16 yr old's to vote.
* All seemingly rejecting required voter ID or calling for it but not getting it done.
* ACORN

Tip of the iceberg and the list goes on and on. Yes, we have problems.



To answer the OP's question. I'm much more in tune with the Republican message than what the Dem's have to offer. Keep in mind that I firmly believe the democrat party of today hardly resembles that of my Father's Democrat party.

Appearances can be deceiving.