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eyes wide open, right before the fall
The mayans, gone
The byzantines, gone
The romans, gone
The aztecs, gone
If a man as simple as I can see it, why doesnt everyone else?
Is it too late?
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05-22-2010, 12:32 PM
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I never figured on sticking around forever anyway.
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05-22-2010, 09:11 PM
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I never figured on sticking around forever anyway.
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Me neither.
Dave
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05-22-2010, 12:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GWAR
The mayans, gone
The byzantines, gone
The romans, gone
The aztecs, gone
If a man as simple as I can see it, why doesnt everyone else?
Is it too late?
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Even if it is, we've got another 300 years.
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05-22-2010, 09:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GWAR
The mayans, gone
The byzantines, gone
The romans, gone
The aztecs, gone
If a man as simple as I can see it, why doesnt everyone else?
Is it too late?
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They all elected a black Democratic President?
Oh, I know! It was healthcare reform that did them in?
Ahh, I got it! They worshipped the wrong God(s)?
Legalized Gay Marriage? That's it, they let their queers run amok! Ha, ha, I knew it!
Teletubbies?
Dixie Chicks?
No religious icons in public buildings? That'll do it every time!
Or, maybe.....just maybe.....They all tried to maintain a vast military empire, maintaining standing armies in far flung lands forcing other people to give up natural resources on the cheap?
Hmmm? I'll have to ponder this for a while.............
Dave
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05-22-2010, 09:18 PM
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Sir Lord Vader of Cheam
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Or, maybe.....just maybe.....They all tried to maintain a vast military empire, maintaining standing armies in far flung lands forcing other people to give up natural resources on the cheap?
Hmmm? I'll have to ponder this for a while.............
Dave
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Why?
Sounds to me like you've got it!!!
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05-23-2010, 01:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
They all elected a black Democratic President?
Oh, I know! It was healthcare reform that did them in?
Ahh, I got it! They worshipped the wrong God(s)?
Legalized Gay Marriage? That's it, they let their queers run amok! Ha, ha, I knew it!
Teletubbies?
Dixie Chicks?
No religious icons in public buildings? That'll do it every time!
Or, maybe.....just maybe.....They all tried to maintain a vast military empire, maintaining standing armies in far flung lands forcing other people to give up natural resources on the cheap?
Hmmm? I'll have to ponder this for a while.............
Dave
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I see you been doing your ancient history homework.
Regards,
D-Ray
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05-23-2010, 04:47 AM
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Quote Bluestreak.
"Or, maybe.....just maybe.....They all tried to maintain a vast military empire, maintaining standing armies in far flung lands forcing other people to give up natural resources on the cheap?"
The Romans yes and 1000 years later the British, but one reason they fell was reaction time. Something goes wrong in a colony, it takes months to alert the capital and get instructions so the colony leader had to make his own decision as to how to deal with it.
"Things fall apart, the center does not hold" I guess some colonial leaders could think on the fly and some couldn't.
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05-23-2010, 09:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Combwork
Quote Bluestreak.
"Or, maybe.....just maybe.....They all tried to maintain a vast military empire, maintaining standing armies in far flung lands forcing other people to give up natural resources on the cheap?"
The Romans yes and 1000 years later the British, but one reason they fell was reaction time. Something goes wrong in a colony, it takes months to alert the capital and get instructions so the colony leader had to make his own decision as to how to deal with it.
"Things fall apart, the center does not hold" I guess some colonial leaders could think on the fly and some couldn't.
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Combwork,
My point is that some of our conservative friends are so in love with maintaining our "vast miltary empire" that they would sacrifice anything to keep it. $708,000,000,000 per annum, in the last budget (Signed by Mr. Obama.) and growing. I will soon be assailed for being "anti-military". I am not, I am a proud veteran myself. I just happen to believe our military should be restructured more towards protecting our own borders and shores, and less toward trying to be "World Police". We would be safer and have the money to pay for other things, such as our massive debt.
Dave
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05-23-2010, 10:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Combwork,
My point is that some of our conservative friends are so in love with maintaining our "vast miltary empire" that they would sacrifice anything to keep it. $708,000,000,000 per annum, in the last budget (Signed by Mr. Obama.) and growing. I will soon be assailed for being "anti-military". I am not, I am a proud veteran myself. I just happen to believe our military should be restructured more towards protecting our own borders and shores, and less toward trying to be "World Police". We would be safer and have the money to pay for other things, such as our massive debt.
Dave
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Agreed.
We're broke, we must get a handle on spending, and that includes cutting the military. The Federal budget needs to be cut across the boards. Our currency needs to be stabilized.
But I don't see that happening. Too many people at the top have a vested interest in keeping things the way they are.
I'd like to say that we need to get people back to work...but doing what? Modern methods of production are so efficient that we need fewer workers. Even with unemployment as high as it is, does anyone want for anything? May not be able to afford it, but it's there if you can.
I'm not so sure that anything can be done at this point. The ship's going down. You can pump water from one side of the bilge to the other to maintain an even keel, but we get closer to the waterline every day.
No wonder people are hot.
Chas
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