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06-06-2016, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
Trump has already stated that cuts to SS are off the table.
Equally troubling to me, side by side with the calls to cut SS, are the recent calls to expand it, lead by our debtor in chief Obama.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...essives-223806
Politics as usual - use entitlement programs as nothing more that a basis to buy / sell votes.
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Cheap shot isn't it? The debt under GWB doubled even with a running surplus he was handed by Clinton, whereas under Obama the debt increased 50%.
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06-06-2016, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
Cheap shot isn't it? The debt under GWB doubled even with a running surplus he was handed by Clinton, whereas under Obama the debt increased 50%.
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Nope. It is what it is...and it ain't over yet.
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06-06-2016, 02:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
Trump has already stated that cuts to SS are off the table.
Equally troubling to me, side by side with the calls to cut SS, are the recent calls to expand it, lead by our debtor in chief Obama.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...essives-223806
Politics as usual - use entitlement programs as nothing more that a basis to buy / sell votes.
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I personally do not need more SSI in fact despite the excessive income tax Canada places on my pension I still bring more money into the country than the country pays me.
But SSI for women alone needs to be at least doubled. Had I died first and Florence got her piece of my SSI it would have been more than double what she was getting. Yet she had worked from the age of eighteen, had at one time had her own company and when she was working in the nuclear lab was getting pretty damn good money. I only worked here twenty one years from age 53 to 73. Sure I was making good money but somehow the system here is biased against women. In Canada if you have no other income then the Old Age Pension dollars are the same for men or women. In fact even if you have other income it is the same, they just take back any excess in taxes.
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06-06-2016, 05:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
Trump has already stated that cuts to SS are off the table.
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You'll be pleased to learn that he told Ryan that he was now open to the idea.
https://www.google.com/search?q=trum...curity&tbm=nws
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Equally troubling to me, side by side with the calls to cut SS, are the recent calls to expand it, lead by our debtor in chief Obama
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Good.
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06-06-2016, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
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Looks like the articles are referencing comments attributable to someone other than Trump.
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06-06-2016, 08:57 AM
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In answer to your query, none. Professor, votes for our highest office don't exist until November. I'm also taken aback incredulously by your "grow up" line. He is The Donald. The guy's got some major problems that probably say much about his father.
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06-06-2016, 07:48 AM
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The Donald's supporters have been fighting back against accusation of Trump's racism and then he comes out and validates it. I guess they chose to ignore his statements about David Duke and the Klan.
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06-06-2016, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
The Donald's supporters have been fighting back against accusation of Trump's racism and then he comes out and validates it. I guess they chose to ignore his statements about David Duke and the Klan.
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Lot's of Americans are unable to see the racist they see everyday in the mirror.
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06-06-2016, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by nailer
Lot's of Americans are unable to see the racist they see everyday in the mirror.
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Nobody wants to know the truth about themselves, it's too depressing. We all want to believe we are good, but we all have demons. The difference is that some of us struggle against our demons and some hold on to them and try to hide them from the world or worse, try to justify them.
Evil cannot stand the light of day.
I've never liked Trump, I've always believed he is a scam artist, a manipulator, big tent preacher and colossal egomaniac.
How many times have I said it? These people cannot keep it bottled up forever. Sooner or later it becomes undeniable. Just a matter of time.
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06-06-2016, 10:02 AM
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Persona non grata
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nailer
Lot's of Americans are unable to see the racist they see everyday in the mirror.
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I see the racist in me every time I get stuck at a traffic signal next to some black dude with his windows down blasting rap music.
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