How would you fix the economy ?

[merrylander]

Despite all the cries of socialism it was the Conservative party that instituted the Single Payer plan. They did so in the belief that its citizens are any nation's best natural resource so it would be wise to ensure thier care. Of course we live in a throw-away society, even citizens get thrown away.

What I am waiting to see from some of these rugged -I don't need anyone - individualists is their report on do it yourself surgerey.

[piece-itpete]

Does cutting my own splinters out count?

I'm not against reforming the system. But why would we rush something so large and important?

Pete

[hillbilly]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Does cutting my own splinters out count?

I'm not against reforming the system. But why would we rush something so large and important?

Pete

Thank you.

The other day Obie was on tv saying that since he wrote the new health care bill , that he 'owns' it. He says he plans to cut medicare costs by 500 billion bucks. So, rushing into this, just what exactly are old folks gonna be doing without?

To fast, with to little explaining. Can't trust as many of us will be old one day also. My poor old mother inlaw is not able, and at age 83 close to deaths door she only gets 14 dollars a month in food stamps.The family has to pitch in to feed her. Now I always thought the system was put in place for the elderly, but seeing all those young able body folks 'walking' into the store and shelling out 200-300 in food stamps REALLY CHAPS MY ASS.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Does cutting my own splinters out count?

I'm not against reforming the system. But why would we rush something so large and important?

Pete

Rushing????????????????????????????????????
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This goes back to Truman!!!!!!!!!!

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by noonereal

Rushing????????????????????????????????????
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This goes back to Truman!!!!!!!!!!

Then why isn't the bill actually been READ????????????????

Pete

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Then why isn't the bill actually been READ????????????????

Pete

Because it is changed so often by the pressure of the profit in controlling pain suffering and death.

get the profit out of health care!

[merrylander]

And yet you yell socialism about countries that look after their people. Canada grants a old age pension to all citizens. If that is your only income you can also get a supplement of up to $635 per month.

Some will tell you that taxes are higher there but that is comparing apples to oranges. Their income tax is a single amount, this covers CPP (like SS) federal tax, provincial tax and a small amount for health care over and above the monthly provicial charge. People tend to compare that to just our federal income tax forgetting that to be accurate you have to include FICA, state income tax and county income tax. Having worked in both countries I found the totals to be within 1 or 2% for the same given income. So your MIL would be getting healthcare and over $1000 per month.

As to rushing into it, Congress has kicked this can down the road for forty years, how many more does it bloody well take? If the republicans and blue dogs would get the finger out and contribute something it could have been done already.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by merrylander

And yet you yell socialism about countries that look after their people. Canada grants a old age pension to all citizens. If that is your only income you can also get a supplement of up to $635 per month.

Some will tell you that taxes are higher there but that is comparing apples to oranges. Their income tax is a single amount, this covers CPP (like SS) federal tax, provincial tax and a small amount for health care over and above the monthly provicial charge. People tend to compare that to just our federal income tax forgetting that to be accurate you have to include FICA, state income tax and county income tax. Having worked in both countries I found the totals to be within 1 or 2% for the same given income. So your MIL would be getting healthcare and over $1000 per month.

As to rushing into it, Congress has kicked this can down the road for forty years, how many more does it bloody well take? If the republicans and blue dogs would get the finger out and contribute something it could have been done already.

Are you addressing me?

Chas

[merrylander]

You are most welcome Chas.

[merrylander]

Naw, it was meant for hillbilly's complaint about how his MIL is being treated. Somehow I am sure that she is entitled to better treatment by SS.

The last bit was for Pete's 'why rush things'