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02-09-2011, 04:37 PM
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Free Speech
Should free speech on corporate property be more limited than speech on public property? If it should, what kinds of limitations should there be? Should outdoor areas open to the public -which are nevertheless still corporate- be treated differently from, for example, small indoor confined spaces such as offices? How so?
Watch the below video for a few minutes from 1:20 to get an entertaining idea of what I am talking about ->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNscBk0n9lc
Who was right in the video? Is there a middle ground to be found? Is this kind of free speech covered in the Constitution? Should it be a human right? Was the police officer wrong to try and stop the megaphone guy from speaking in this particular situation?
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02-09-2011, 08:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother_Karl
Should free speech on corporate property be more limited than speech on public property? If it should, what kinds of limitations should there be? Should outdoor areas open to the public -which are nevertheless still corporate- be treated differently from, for example, small indoor confined spaces such as offices? How so?
Watch the below video for a few minutes from 1:20 to get an entertaining idea of what I am talking about ->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNscBk0n9lc
Who was right in the video? Is there a middle ground to be found? Is this kind of free speech covered in the Constitution? Should it be a human right? Was the police officer wrong to try and stop the megaphone guy from speaking in this particular situation?
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The bald headed guy was right, he's a fucking loud mouth.
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02-09-2011, 09:09 PM
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Freedom of speech is about the right to express your ideas, not one's ability to be a loudmouth prick. This guy is a loudmouth prick and was disturbing the peace. Somebody should have shoved that thing down his throat.
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02-09-2011, 09:17 PM
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The internet provided novel ways for the least common denominators among us to have their 5 minutes of fame.
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02-09-2011, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Freedom of speech is about the right to express your ideas, not one's ability to be a loudmouth prick. This guy is a loudmouth prick and was disturbing the peace. Somebody should have shoved that thing down his throat.
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There's some cops you wouldn't want to pull that shit on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWNE54RJIL4
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02-10-2011, 12:21 AM
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Are all British cops that nice? You should see what happens when people smart off to the police here in "the Land of the Brave." Before you do---I hope your health insurance is paid up. You'll be needing it.
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"If you want to learn the definition of asshole, just pin a badge on a redneck."
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02-10-2011, 02:33 AM
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So, the video aside, does everyone agree that on all corporate property (including such corporate property as the stone steps that megaphone guy was standing on) people shouldnt be entitled to the same free speech rights as they have on public property?
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Originally Posted by finnbow
This guy is a loudmouth prick and was disturbing the peace.
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How so?
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02-10-2011, 07:47 AM
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Your freedom of speech is whatever I decide it should be on my property, I imagine corporations have the same right.
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02-10-2011, 08:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother_Karl
So, the video aside, does everyone agree that on all corporate property (including such corporate property as the stone steps that megaphone guy was standing on) people shouldnt be entitled to the same free speech rights as they have on public property?
How so?
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By being a friggin' loudmouth a$$hole.
Let's say you're finally able to buy a small piece of property and build your idyllic cabin in the woods. Does someone, in the name of free speech, have the right to set up in your front yard and yell shit through a megaphone (particularly after you've told them to stop)?
Or in the name of free speech, should you be allowed to go into your local pub and repeat anything you hear through a megaphone while other patrons are trying to relax (after the pub owner has told you to cease and desist)? How about in a movie theater? In a church?
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02-10-2011, 08:52 AM
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Noise pollution.
I you need a megaphone to make your case, then you can't make a case in the first place.
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