"Chasing Ice"

[JBS...]

Originally Posted by Pukka Sahib

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC3VTgIPoGU

What is the insuperable line?
How much evidence must there be
To prove what is plain for all to see?
Must there be unanimous consent -
Are we now ruled by sole dissent -
In the progress of time?
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Global warming is a fact. It is happening, and at an accelerated rate. The ice is melting. The grim speed of the glacial retreat is there for all to see. It can no longer be denied. There is no point in arguing. The continued debate over the cause has all the absurdity of arguing over shuffleboard scores on a sinking Titanic. We are past the tipping point in the natural balance; and there is nothing that can be done to counteract the colossal elemental forces now set in motion - it is unstoppable. All that can be done at this late date is to deal with the inevitable consequences that are predictable, if not calculable to a mathematical certainty. It is only a matter of time.

Out of curiosity Pukka, if I use the quote function on your post, am I actually quoting Pukka Sahib or am I quoting Wendell Phillips or Mr. Jaggers?

Maybe all three

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http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...ge-debate.html

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http://defendingthetruth.com/current...ming-left.html

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http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...l#post23650208

[piece-itpete]

I remember you Pukka. My avatar was Alfred E Newman back then.

Pete

[piece-itpete]

Brother most of the US had its fill of winter this past season. One of the coldest I can remember.

Hope you choose moving! Come to glamorous Cleveland

Pete

[bobabode]

Came across this while reading the Times.

http://whatweknow.aaas.org/wp-conten...at-We-Know.pdf

[HarmanKardon]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Brother most of the US had its fill of winter this past season. One of the coldest I can remember.

Hope you choose moving! Come to glamorous Cleveland

Pete

I know from AudioKarma that a lot of you had very hard times in the last months.

I would like to move to Canada or to a Northern state in the USA. Or - even better - to Bhutan. Bhutan is great.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Brother most of the US had its fill of winter this past season. One of the coldest I can remember.

Hope you choose moving! Come to glamorous Cleveland

Pete

In the Midwest it's been brutal, out here on the coast it's been warm and dry, dry, dry. One rainstorm this whole season. We're moving before the ocean swallows the whole area.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Brother most of the US had its fill of winter this past season. One of the coldest I can remember.

Hope you choose moving! Come to glamorous Cleveland

Pete

You're on the wrong side of the Rockies. They're keeping the jet stream to the east of us. Warm dry winters instead of cool wet ones.

John

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by Boreas

You're on the wrong side of the Rockies. They're keeping the jet stream to the east of us. Warm dry winters instead of cool wet ones.

John

Lets hope that changes soon.

[icenine]

It was a bit cold last night...I actually had to use the defroster this am on the CRV.....brrr

[donquixote99]

My understanding is the same phenomena of a roaming 'polar vortex' made the US colder and Europe warmer this last winter.