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Old 04-26-2016, 11:54 AM
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We used to live in the country.... Outside a small town.... Coyotes and jack rabbits the biggest problem.

Then one day two guys came to the door, postal whipped husband and stun gunned him. Killed our German Shepard and Dalmatian and robbed the house.

By the way.... The weapon we had safely stored was no deterrent.
What would have happened IF the weapon had been at hand?

Did either of the dogs alert you that strangers were coming?
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Old 04-26-2016, 11:39 AM
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Not saying it couldn't happen, just feel my odds are better here than when I lived in Portland. My sister has 100 acres up in NE Washington with a house pretty much right in the middle. They are also about 10 miles out of town. They got robbed a couple years ago. Nobody is 100% safe anywhere. Living in fear of it would be like living in fear of a lightning strike though. In Portland I actually worried about leaving my wife at home when I left for work at 4am.


I hear what you are saying and you are quite right.
No one is ever 100% safe.

I don't live in fear but am aware of my situation and surroundings.
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Old 04-26-2016, 11:55 AM
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I do have several neighbors in close proximity. I rely on them for safety more than my weapons.
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Old 04-26-2016, 12:03 PM
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I do have several neighbors in close proximity. I rely on them for safety more than my weapons.
How long would it take for you neighbors to get there in the wee, small hours of the morning?


(A tip of the hat to Mr. Sinatra.)
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Old 04-26-2016, 02:47 PM
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How long would it take for you neighbors to get there in the wee, small hours of the morning?


(A tip of the hat to Mr. Sinatra.)
It wouldn't take them very long, but that wasn't the point. The neighborhood looks out for one another here. That is a better deterrent. I still have plenty of guns if they were ever necessary.
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Old 04-26-2016, 03:01 PM
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It wouldn't take them very long, but that wasn't the point. The neighborhood looks out for one another here. That is a better deterrent. I still have plenty of guns if they were ever necessary.
Ask Barbara how long it took for two strangers to do what they did.

All I'm saying is a person needs to be able to look out for themselves.
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Old 04-26-2016, 03:07 PM
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All I'm saying is a person needs to be able to look out for themselves.
I agree John. I don't think owning a gun and looking out for oneself is compulsory though. In fact, I think it unwise... most times. Not all.

The odds are farrrrrrrr greater that your gun will induce harm when not wanted than in the service of protecting you and yours. For this reason, I choose not to think of a gun as protection.

That said, I do have guns.
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Old 04-26-2016, 12:14 PM
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I do have several neighbors in close proximity. I rely on them for safety more than my weapons.
seems wise given the data
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Old 04-26-2016, 12:35 PM
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Just realized what this thread is about. It is about crime, not about aesthetics or whatever else. Sorry.
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Old 04-26-2016, 11:57 AM
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What would have happened IF the weapon had been at hand?


Not sure.


But, karma can be wicked.

They caught one of the perpetrators and justice gave him a slap on the hand and told him to be a good boy. Within a month he overdosed and died.
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