"Hate Crime" Legislation?

[BlueStreak]

What do y'all think of this?

Dave

[d-ray657]

Although they do seem to criminalize ideas or attitudes, they seem to pass constitutional muster with the Supreme Court. If the ideas (no matter how ugly the ideas are) were the sole grounds for the crime, I would be worried. The laws that I have seen, however, involve some other criminal behavior, coupled with racial or religious intimidation.

Regards,

D-Ray

[merrylander]

If this is in regard to the recent bill passed because of the gay boy who was murdered simply because he was gay it does not get my knickers in a twist. Like it or not gay citizens are still citizens and deserve protection like everyone else. If you want to kill someone simply because you disagree with their sexual proclivities, you get the slammer.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

What do y'all think of this?

Dave

No valid reason for such distinctions.

A crime is a crime.

[JJIII]

"The dream police, they live inside of my head.
The dream police, they come to me in my bed.
The dream police, theyre coming to arrest me, oh no."


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It is nobody's business what I think. If I act illegally, that's another story entirely.

[BlueStreak]

[QUOTE=JJIII;7795

It is nobody's business what I think. If I act illegally, that's another story entirely.[/QUOTE]


The only way anyone can control what you think is if you let them.

I believe the law is only intended for those have acted upon their sick, violent thoughts. Although it may have an added psychological deterrent effect.

Dave

[Sandy G]

"It is nobody's business what I think. If I act illegally,that's another story entirely." Exactamundo ! This is a VERY bad precedent, IMHO.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Sandy G

"It is nobody's business what I think. If I act illegally,that's another story entirely." Exactamundo ! This is a VERY bad precedent, IMHO.

How so? How is it that you think someone is trying to control your thoughts? As I stated above, the only way someone can control your thoughts is if you let them. (IMO)

BTW, I personally think our laws/punishments are far too lenient against anyone who commits violent crime, regardless of their motive.

However, don't you think there might be a difference between a man killing another because he catches the guy humping his wife, goes berserk and a....."crime of passion" occurs, as opposed to someone deliberately seeking out someone/anyone of a different ethnicity or "group" and beating/torturing/killing them based solely on the premise of his hatred for them? (The group, not the individual.) And spending a considerable amount of time planning and executing the crime? Sorry, but I do, I think there is a big difference.

As I see it, one is a momentary impulse (Inexcusable nontheless.), the other is an act of deliberate premeditation, and there should be added consideration.

Those are my thoughts, anyhow.

Dave

[Charles]

I thought murder was already against the law.

Chas

[Twodogs]

Originally Posted by Charles

I thought murder was already against the law.

Chas

Not if you really like the guy you're killing.