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08-12-2014, 04:41 PM
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Funny how allowing the unchecked concentration of wealth Dave
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It's government creating & protecting their monopoly.
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08-12-2014, 04:45 PM
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Why are they protected by the feds? Because they bought the laws that protect them. That is free capitalism.....
Monopoly is a game of free capitalism. And what is the purpose of the end game?
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Exactly. All one needs to do is look at the behavior of the "Big Three" automakers, before the floodgates were opened to foreign competition. (A governmental action, BTW.)
Like so many other things, taken to extremes free market capitalism becomes it's own worst enemy. The strong crush the weak and the field narrows as wealth and power is concentrated.
The government becomes corrupt when the corrupt businessman has the means to buy favors.
Is that really so hard to figure out?
Dave
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08-12-2014, 04:46 PM
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It's government creating & protecting their monopoly.
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You're only seeing half the game.
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08-12-2014, 04:46 PM
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Anyone like Burpee left?
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08-12-2014, 04:51 PM
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Exactly. All one needs to do is look at the behavior of the "Big Three" automakers, before the floodgates were opened to foreign competition. (A governmental action, BTW.)
Like so many other things, taken to extremes free market capitalism becomes it's own worst enemy. The strong crush the weak and the field narrows as wealth and power is concentrated.
The government becomes corrupt when the corrupt businessman has the means to buy favors.
Is that really so hard to figure out?
Dave
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If you didn't have big government ($$$), you wouldn't have Monsanto getting this treatment. Also, we do have antitrust laws that the government does not enforce. In fact, government does the opposite & picks favorites who will fill their war chests.
"One view, mostly closely associated with the "Chicago School of economics" suggests that antitrust laws should focus solely on the benefits to consumers and overall efficiency, while a broad range of legal and economic theory sees the role of antitrust laws as also controlling economic power in the public interest."
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08-12-2014, 04:54 PM
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You're only seeing half the game.
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And you can't stop defending a corrupt government who thinks seed banks are potential terrorist threats.
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08-12-2014, 05:08 PM
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It's government creating & protecting their monopoly.
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Originally Posted by djv8ga
If you didn't have big government ($$$), you wouldn't have Monsanto getting this treatment. Also, we do have antitrust laws that the government does not enforce. In fact, government does the opposite & picks favorites who will fill their war chests.
"One view, mostly closely associated with the "Chicago School of economics" suggests that antitrust laws should focus solely on the benefits to consumers and overall efficiency, while a broad range of legal and economic theory sees the role of antitrust laws as also controlling economic power in the public interest."
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I could throw out the 'chicken and the egg' theory here but when you're coming from an Alex Jones conspiracy filled alternate universe, why bother.
As Dave said, 'You're only seeing half the game' plus you are willfully ignoring the forest for the trees DJ.
Anti trust law enforcement went the way of the dodo bird under St. Ronnie and succeeding Repub presidents.
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08-12-2014, 05:14 PM
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It's government creating & protecting their monopoly.
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Anti-authoratarian anarchy is no solution
You keep blaming "government" like it's some sort of sentient entity instead a public service beurocracy.
Eliminating it would only further empower the offenders, using it to make screwing folks without defense or recourse difficult, or better, impossible would make more sense than armed anarchy. In a so-called free society freedom isn't the freedom to screw folks that can't defend themselves, greed has ensured that we've never been truly free and that our governance has generally gone to the highest bidders, a republic of laws in a for-profit justice system nobody but the wealthy can afford.
You want better, work for incorruptible accountability instead of anarchy.
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08-12-2014, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
The government becomes corrupt when the corrupt businessman has the means to buy favors.
Is that really so hard to figure out?
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Not hard to figure.
Russian Billionaires buy the UK government.
The oil men wrote their own regulations under George W. Bush.
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08-12-2014, 06:12 PM
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Anti-authoratarian anarchy is no solution
You keep blaming "government" like it's some sort of sentient entity instead a public service beurocracy.
Eliminating it would only further empower the offenders, using it to make screwing folks without defense or recourse difficult, or better, impossible would make more sense than armed anarchy. In a so-called free society freedom isn't the freedom to screw folks that can't defend themselves, greed has ensured that we've never been truly free and that our governance has generally gone to the highest bidders, a republic of laws in a for-profit justice system nobody but the wealthy can afford.
You want better, work for incorruptible accountability instead of anarchy.
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All I can say is Bullshit. Also, I blame people like you who think it's ok for government to call people who trade seeds potential terrorists.
Sounds like you're the one afraid of losing an entitlement.
Seed trading = anarchy - WTF is wrong with you?
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