$50 a bulb??

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by JonL

Without looking at the link, and even taking this quote totally out of context, I would say... "depends." Many issues, including energy consumption, are complex. Sometimes it may be appropriate to sacrifice some US jobs for the sake of the nation as a whole. On the other hand, actions that sacrifice US jobs simply to increase corporate profits and enrich the CEOs and stock market speculators should be vigorously discouraged through the use of public pressure, market pressure, and - where necessary - by regulation and tax policy.

Woomp, there it is!!!!!!

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by whell

So we should leverage government regs to force the issue at the expense of US jobs? Also, it would appear the lobby was in favor of this.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/op-eds...s-factory-jobs

Of course that two year old article did not mention that American companies are working to LED based bulbs. Let's see - a new technology - American manufacturers. Damn those government regulations!!!

Regards,

D-Ray

[HatchetJack]

I replaced 95% of the bulbs in my home several years back with the cfl bulbs.
While most of them are still working, I'm still not sold they are cheaper to
operate. They get hot as fire around the transformer base and I swear my
power bill went up instead of down? Think of the energy being wasted
everyday by all the dc transformers in everyone's home. From the pencil
sharpner to the cordless phones those are phantom power leaches.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by JonL

Without looking at the link, and even taking this quote totally out of context, I would say... "depends." Many issues, including energy consumption, are complex. Sometimes it may be appropriate to sacrifice some US jobs for the sake of the nation as a whole. On the other hand, actions that sacrifice US jobs simply to increase corporate profits and enrich the CEOs and stock market speculators should be vigorously discouraged through the use of public pressure, market pressure, and - where necessary - by regulation and tax policy.

The major problem with the sacrifice of US jobs is that even the GE incandescents are made in China now and they are crap, plain and simply crap. That is why I thank God for Sylvania.

[merrylander]

BTW, this 2600 sq ft two story all electric home runs us on average $250 per month even give the inefficient over-priced electric system here in the US.

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

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The headline for the $50 light bulb just so much hyperbole. As the cited article shows, as the market expands, and technology improves, the price of the bulbs will drop.

In that case, market efficiency will take over

Originally Posted by d-ray657

I hear they are proposing a regulation that would limit use of tube audio gear to times when the temperature is below 50 degrees F.

It's just a joke guys. I am such a cheapskate, however, that I am still solid state.

Regards,

D-Ray

LOL! Me too.

Pete

[flacaltenn]

It needs to be attacked on all fronts. Gas mileage needs to be improved; electricity usage needs to be decreased; habits have to be changed.

If this move toward more energy efficient lighting is not important, do you think the government could have withstood the pressure from lobbyists? Advertising has encouraged excessive usage of energy for years. Advertising is just a more subtle means of directing people's behavior. It requires stronger measures to respond.

Quite simply, our nation will never again be properous and competitive if we bow to the demands of the eco-left to make energy rare and expensive. It needs to be cheap and plentiful. At the same time, we should work to cut emissions of REAL pollution (not CO2)even further.

And there currently is not a great similiarity between transportation energy and the power grid. The only nexus there is perhaps nat gas which serves both sectors. Making the transistion to electric vehicles or even hydrogen vehicles (which require electricity to create the fuel stock), will require that electricity be plentiful and cheap. Much more capacity and different means of distribution.

Not gonna get there by replacing light bulbs and living like moles..

And what "advertising" was used to brainwash me into being a profulgate energy waster? Who paid for the "please let your children leave the lights on" campaign? I totally missed that...

[HatchetJack]

Amen brother, and the inner city lefties think they are doing us a favor
by racing all over town in a prius sipping on their damn starbucks. Please!!!

[HatchetJack]

A good friend of mine has a rustic cabin on a few hundred acres of family
land. It's deer camp in the fall and beer camp the rest of the year.
Anyway we power it with an inverter and a 12 volt marine battery.
We have an 86 model 55wpc realistic receiver and two lamps. That's
about all we really need out there. With both lamps on, 13 watt cfl curly
bulbs, the cooling fan runs on the inverter and that is with the stereo off.
With the receiver on at ear splitting levels pushing some old ratty JBL
speakers with the lamps off the cooling fan never comes on???????
So two energy efficient? bulbs use more power than a 300 some odd watt
receiver?

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

A good friend of mine has a rustic cabin on a few hundred acres of family
land. It's deer camp in the fall and beer camp the rest of the year.
Anyway we power it with an inverter and a 12 volt marine battery.
We have an 86 model 55wpc realistic receiver and two lamps. That's
about all we really need out there. With both lamps on, 13 watt cfl curly
bulbs, the cooling fan runs on the inverter and that is with the stereo off.
With the receiver on at ear splitting levels pushing some old ratty JBL
speakers with the lamps off the cooling fan never comes on???????
So two energy efficient? bulbs use more power than a 300 some odd watt
receiver?

Sounds like heaven, Jack.