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Old 08-25-2015, 07:01 AM
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I see it as more political theater in nature then one of national security. Would be funny if not so serious that when the Repubs were in office, never a problem having a private server. Only when the Dems are in charge.

Once again, does anyone really think there are secrets kept for long anymore between governments? Or just the "outrage" when the populaces become aware?


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Old 08-25-2015, 07:23 AM
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If the law is truly for everyone and we are a country of laws, not men/women, then Mrs. Clinton should be held to account if the FBI investigation determines she violated the law.

Individuals lower on the diplomatic/command structure have been severely punished recently for lesser breaches of security.

The Secretary of State and all gov. executives should be held to the highest standards of the law - it doesn't matter if some Republicans get perverse pleasure out of watching her tank, they have their own wall of shame.

It seems we have accepted that there are no individuals of either party able to adhere to the laws we who elect them are expected to follow.

It has been a slow, creeping devolution of expectations over the past 30 or so years, and it is pretty depressing.
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Old 08-25-2015, 07:26 AM
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Its always pretty much been thus, Andrew Jackson wasn't bothered by it, Nixon plainly didn't care until it was too late.

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Old 08-25-2015, 07:30 AM
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True enough - although I am getting on in years, I wasn't around for Andrew Jackson.
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Old 08-25-2015, 07:52 AM
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Those who see nothing wrong with Hillary's email problems don't want to see problems. She seemingly handled and stored classified information improperly and destroyed government records subject to a FOIA request. Then she handled the issue dismissively and dishonestly.

The White House certainly recognizes the problem as its spokesman, Josh Earnest, took a shot across the bow of Hillary's candidacy yesterday.
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Old 08-25-2015, 08:51 AM
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I recall Sandy Berger getting slapped pretty hard for knowingly smuggling classified in his pants.

Petreus got burned, but as the direct commander of secrets central, he certainly couldn't mess up security as bad as he did and survive.

I guess my opinion on this depends on how 'real' the security lapse is. If there was knowing disregard of protection for known classified, that's one thing. If this is a matter of CIA coming in and classifying stuff that State didn't see as needing it, well, that's just a matter of opinion, man....
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:10 AM
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A general got burnt for lax handling. Hillary was Secretary of State.

"A general got burnt" for passing classified information to his mistress.

And, at the time, the "general" was the DCI.

Jesus! Channeling Trump now, are you?
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:13 AM
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Individuals lower on the diplomatic/command structure have been severely punished recently for lesser breaches of security.
Because they were whistle blowers.

False equivalency.

Hillary didn't disclose any of the information in her possession.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:15 AM
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Those who see nothing wrong with Hillary's email problems don't want to see problems. She seemingly handled and stored classified information improperly and destroyed government records subject to a FOIA request. Then she handled the issue dismissively and dishonestly.

The White House certainly recognizes the problem as its spokesman, Josh Earnest, took a shot across the bow of Hillary's candidacy yesterday.
Personal emails, according to Sec. Clinton. I'm aware of no contradictory evidence.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:39 AM
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'We don't believe she did anything wrong' is not a vote of confidence for someone who is running for the highest office in the country. That is the problem and as the FBI digs and it is discussed in the media, her support will continue to erode. That makes her a poor choice for a candidate. Sooner we accept this, the better. Anyone here actually expect her poll numbers to move up nationally especially in the swing states?
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