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Old 12-14-2014, 03:02 PM
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I have no way of knowing if it is authentic or not. I posted the link to see if anyone else had seen it and to find out what they thought. If it is real or fake will become known soon enough.
whatever

if it is not Brown, or even if it is an authentic video of another African-American committing a crime, why would you post this?
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Old 12-14-2014, 03:08 PM
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I did wonder if there had been anything like expert vetting of the vlid; looked and didn't find any.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter now whether Michael Brown was 'gentle giant,' or 'urban thug.' If it is shown to be a fake, that will be of a little interest as showing the mendacity of RW propagandists. If it comes out that everyone knew he was no 'gentle giant' then that speaks to the mendacity of those who cast him in that image. That's about all that this film can mean, really.
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Old 12-14-2014, 03:17 PM
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I do not think most criminals like getting filmed while they break the law. Black on black crime has nothing to do with whether Mike Brown was a victim of unecessary force or not. It is not connected.
When white people are killed I seldom hear anyone suggest their deaths are less important because of white on white crime.
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Old 12-14-2014, 05:22 PM
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I am truly outraged by the countless instances of injustice and needless abuses by law enforcement, but not Mike Browns highly questionable example as the poster child. Too many other genuine examples to squander outrage and energy here.

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Old 12-14-2014, 06:51 PM
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It is not really about Mike Brown if you think about it. African Americans are upset that they perceive their lives are not as valuable in the eyes of law enforcement as white lives are. That conversation is not going away anytime soon.
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:02 PM
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/shawnspall.asp
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:24 PM
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There you have it. That's all I was interested in, thanks for the link.
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It is not really about Mike Brown if you think about it. African Americans are upset that they perceive their lives are not as valuable in the eyes of law enforcement as white lives are. That conversation is not going away anytime soon.
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Old 12-14-2014, 08:36 PM
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I am truly outraged by the countless instances of injustice and needless abuses by law enforcement, but not Mike Browns highly questionable example as the poster child. Too many other genuine examples to squander outrage and energy here.

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You are saying, then, I am outraged, but I don't like the Michael Brown 'example.'

Therefore, what?

Generally, a 'but' in an argument means everything said in front of it doesn't count.
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Old 12-14-2014, 08:54 PM
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"But" means I except Mike Brown as a good example of abuse of authority worthy of the attention it's garnered over a long history of obvious examples that should be addressed. Even the "surrender" gesture is suspect as fact here.

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