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Old 10-20-2014, 08:17 PM
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I see no point in pretending I have any idea what occurred there. All I know (or can know) is that Wilson will either get indicted, put on trial and acquitted/convicted or he won't.
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Old 10-20-2014, 08:17 PM
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I don't get you TJ. Why would you suggest I'm on the side of the coppers. The only side I'm on is identifying that we're beating a whole herd of dead horses on this fucking thing.

Do I really need to hear how a bullet went in the top of Mikey's head, down his neck, and lodged in his chest 35 times? No...I don't. Nobody does. Do I need to hear you bleating about how Darren Wilson is a murderer anymore? No TJ...I really don't. Darren Wilson is a murderer when a jury of his peers says he's a murderer.

We're pretty goddamn specific about what's murder and what ain't when it comes to conservatives calling a doc in a women's clinic a murderer. Maybe we oughta give Darren Wilson the same benefit...don'tcha think? Murder is a legal term. Darren Wilson shot and killed Michael Brown. He's not a murderer until he's found guilty of murder.
What I am doing is offering an alternative to the narrative that the right wing, and a lot of the left is pushing. That Brown was a thug that got what was coming to him.

There are a number of posters here that have already exonerated Wilson on that basis. Any objections on your part to those that have already jumped to this conclusion are conspicuously absent.
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Old 10-20-2014, 08:22 PM
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I don't see how they can convict him of anything more severe than voluntary manslaughter.
I would be satisfied with that.

However I expect he will be exonerated and never have to stand trial at all, and that to me would be a travesty of justice. A travesty that has become all too common with regard to cases like this.
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Old 10-20-2014, 08:35 PM
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I see no point in pretending I have any idea what occurred there. All I know (or can know) is that Wilson will either get indicted, put on trial and acquitted/convicted or he won't.
Good points.

I'm comfortable in saying I know Wilson shot an unarmed Brown dead. Anything beyond that would be pure speculation on my part.
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Old 10-20-2014, 08:38 PM
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But it appears that the new blood evidence suggests to many that a trial would acquit Darren Wilson.
On what planet is it where having the blood of a homicide victim on your clothes is evidence of no wrong doing on your part?
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Old 10-20-2014, 08:44 PM
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Good points.

I'm comfortable in saying I know Wilson shot Brown dead. Anything beyond that would be pure speculation on my part.
We also know that Wilson was unarmed.

That's kind of a biggie don't you think?

And I am also reasonably sure that there was what I think to be a significant distance between them.

From what I have seen a good 20 feet.

That to me is also a biggie.

I find it hard to believe that an unarmed individual at a distance of 20 feet could reasonably cause an armed Police Officer to be in fear for his life.
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Old 10-20-2014, 10:06 PM
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What I am doing is offering an alternative to the narrative that the right wing, and a lot of the left is pushing. That Brown was a thug that got what was coming to him.

There are a number of posters here that have already exonerated Wilson on that basis. Any objections on your part to those that have already jumped to this conclusion are conspicuously absent.
That part I bolded has surprised me, I admit. Live and learn.
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Old 10-20-2014, 11:21 PM
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That part I bolded has surprised me, I admit. Live and learn.
Yeah it is sort of downer when the truth hits you.

This case is sort of like the Dreyfus Affair...it has sort of ruined PC for me.


If I misunderstood your quote I apologize and make the comment that the above is my feeling alone.
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Old 10-21-2014, 12:25 AM
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I'm not taking it quite that hard, but we're basically on the same page.

Dreyfus affairs happen a lot, actually. Trevor Martin was a Dreyfus affair.

Identity seems to always matter, big time.
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Old 10-21-2014, 07:17 AM
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I see no point in pretending I have any idea what occurred there. All I know (or can know) is that Wilson will either get indicted, put on trial and acquitted/convicted or he won't.
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Good points.

I'm comfortable in saying I know Wilson shot Brown dead. Anything beyond that would be pure speculation on my part.
Yes, but speculating is such fun.

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