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11-26-2012, 01:05 PM
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of our environmental troubles.
All current ideas are stopgaps. The end is near.
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So mankind is bad for the environment? Is what you are saying?
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11-26-2012, 01:12 PM
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Too much mankind, yes
The earth is a machine. A (from our POV) giant. We're overloading it.
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Perhaps I got off track. I was thinking of consumption in terms of the waste and pollution that is associated with it. For example, if the rest of the world consumed energy at the level that we do, the level of pollution that would result is difficult to fathom - not to mention the pollution issues arising from the increased consumption if consumer goods. There will be issues with the disposal of all of the BPC that breaks down after a year's use.
To your point, however, even feeding the growing population creates problems with resource scarcity. Much of the arable land of which you speak would need considerable irrigation. Our water supply might even be more at risk than our energy supply.
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Water. Huge one! The resource wars are coming.
And the pollution! Frogs and salamanders are dying worldwide, a canary in the mine. Possibly heavy metal contamination. Worldwide!
How about the massive area of plastics in the Pacific.
Even if we miraculously reverse greenhouse production levels there will still be MASSIVE amounts of plain heat generation. Hard to destroy heat
Pete
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11-26-2012, 01:40 PM
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Pete are we agreeing with each other?
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11-26-2012, 01:45 PM
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Pete
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11-26-2012, 03:26 PM
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Quaxalotl says 26 days shopping days left, Pete.
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11-27-2012, 08:53 AM
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LOL! Spend your retirement now!
Hey, when the water crisis hits, you guys can move up here. Smelly water's better than none. You can pay me in albums
Pete
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11-27-2012, 08:58 AM
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LOL! Spend your retirement now!
Hey, when the water crisis hits, you guys can move up here. Smelly water's better than none. You can pay me in albums
Pete
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Nah, I'll just move back to the woods along the Russian River and drink out of that.
'Course, the meth cookers up in Mendocino tend to dump some pretty strange stuff in the headwaters up there.
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11-27-2012, 09:03 AM
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LOL! But, are the meth guys contributing to the local economy?
Pete
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11-27-2012, 09:05 AM
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LOL! But, are the meth guys contributing to the local economy?
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Yeah, middle aged women are flocking to jewelry stores to replace the baubles taken from them by gun point by those meth guys.
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11-27-2012, 09:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Too much mankind, yes
The earth is a machine. A (from our POV) giant. We're overloading it.
Water. Huge one! The resource wars are coming.
And the pollution! Frogs and salamanders are dying worldwide, a canary in the mine. Possibly heavy metal contamination. Worldwide!
How about the massive area of plastics in the Pacific.
Even if we miraculously reverse greenhouse production levels there will still be MASSIVE amounts of plain heat generation. Hard to destroy heat
Pete
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So you think this is final proof that the Gaia Principle is true and happening now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_hypothesis
Then one needs to ask what could man be doing to negatively influence the Earth and why? Plus are we even able to change our ways or are we just doomed because of our nature!
Barney
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