Political platforms and how they control us??

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by JCricket

okay, I can go with that.

I still think a man should have some say when a women is carrying his child, but I certainly would not know how to balance this with the needs of the mother.

+ 1 sir.

[Bigerik]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

I think a man should be prepared to raise a child if he's shooting loads into a woman. I also think the unborn child's right to live trumps the needs and desires of both parents.

I agree with the first part of what you say, but the second is much more complex.

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by Bigerik

I agree with the first part of what you say, but the second is much more complex.

Not complex for me, from a political view or from a morality/spiritual standpoint.
Political view- life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The kid has the right not to be killed, by the parents or anyone else.
Moral/spiritual view- Thou shalt not kill. Also not supposed to pass judgement on others. No man gets to make the decision that a child's life would be tragic and abusive and therefore it's cheaper and more humane to just kill them young. Suffering is not new, and it's not going away. The government isn't going to stop it any more than praying is.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

Not complex for me, from a political view or from a morality/spiritual standpoint.
Political view- life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The kid has the right not to be killed, by the parents or anyone else.
Moral/spiritual view- Thou shalt not kill. Also not supposed to pass judgement on others. No man gets to make the decision that a child's life would be tragic and abusive and therefore it's cheaper and more humane to just kill them young. Suffering is not new, and it's not going away. The government isn't going to stop it any more than praying is.

Until the politicians cook up some excuse to go to war. Then killing becomes patriotic?

And, who doesn't "pass judgement"? Anyone? Really, think about it.

Dave

[Oerets]

I think it is funny some will argue that it's a crime against nature to not allow a child to be born. But then another story once a child is born and the family needs some help! "Don't want their tax dollars to help people who can't afford kids in the first place."

If one truly believes in a Supreme Being and a afterlife then would not there be an allowance made for an abortion? My thoughts are maybe they have a hidden fear there is not and this is the only shot ones gets!








Barney

[Rex E.]

Originally Posted by Oerets

I think it is funny some will argue that it's a crime against nature to not allow a child to be born. But then another story once a child is born and the family needs some help! "Don't want their tax dollars to help people who can't afford kids in the first place."

If one truly believes in a Supreme Being and a afterlife then would not there be an allowance made for an abortion? My thoughts are maybe they have a hidden fear there is not and this is the only shot ones gets!








Barney

If folks truly practiced what they preached then they'd know that judgement is not for them but for the creator.

[barbara]

Understanding and agreeing (to a point)with the initial statement, I gotta wonder who is controling the politicians.....
'money is the root of all evil' comes to mind....

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by barbara

Understanding and agreeing (to a point)with the initial statement, I gotta wonder who is controling the politicians.....
'money is the root of all evil' comes to mind....

Really, ya think?

Dave

[barbara]

Not your fault my sarcasm went over your head, Dave. Sometimes hard to detect in print, especially as dry as mine is at times.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by barbara

Not your fault my sarcasm went over your head, Dave. Sometimes hard to detect in print, especially as dry as mine is at times.

I see. But, mine is not, as you may have noticed.

Dave