"Mein Kampf" - back in Germany!

[icenine]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

BTW, I'm not making an argument from authority. No argument is true because someone else says it, or false because I say it. 'Coup' is my word, based on my own knowledge and reasoning. If the reasons I offer don't persuade you, feel free to disagree. But don't tell me I'm not qualified to put forward my own opinion, and don't scoff because it is my opinion. Have better reasons to scoff than that.

As Brother Al would say you have a right to your opinion, but not to the facts.
I am a failed historian who ended up as an x-ray tech but I get pissed off about certain things. Sorry if this breach becomes irrevocable. I mean coup or election the outcome was the same. Two mortal enemies, the USA and USSR, had to come in and destroy the Nazi regime, which might have survived had the leader not invaded the latter nation.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by icenine

As Brother Al would say you have a right to your opinion, but not to the facts.
I am a failed historian who ended up as an x-ray tech but I get pissed off about certain things. Sorry if this breach becomes irrevocable. I mean coup or election the outcome was the same. Two mortal enemies, the USA and USSR, had to come in and destroy the Nazi regime, which might have survived had the leader not invaded the latter nation.

I've always heard the opinions/facts thing attributed to Daniel Moynihan, though I wouldn't doubt he got it in turn from an earlier source.

I don't get why a 'breach' at all. I'm OK with you not agreeing with me, on a matter, basically, of opinion. The real question here is the 'legitimacy' of the Nazi regime, a legitimacy that was at best a passing thing. That is, I trust we both agree that Hitler transformed the Reich into a totalitarian tyranny about as fast as he could. Anyway, 'legitimacy' is not a very black and white sort of question. We can agree on the same sets of facts, but differ on what they mean, in a case like this. So lecturing me about what facts I'm entitled to isn't quite on, i wouldn't say.

What are you pissed off about, exactly?