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06-06-2018, 07:34 AM
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Howard Schultz: Dem's Last Best Hope?
I could actually see myself voting for this guy if he's at all serious with these statements. Obviously, he's not confirmed he's running, but he could be on the 2020 ballot if the there's any truth to the speculation.
Anyway, here's some pull quotes from the interview that, IMHO, nail it.
Many leaders in the Democratic Party are veering too far left and overpromising government programs that are not fiscally possible, Howard Schultz told CNBC on Tuesday.
Without naming names, Schultz said in a "Squawk Box" interview: "It concerns me that so many voices within the Democratic Party are going so far to the left. I say to myself, 'How are we going to pay for these things,' in terms of things like single payer [and] people espousing the fact that the government is going to give everyone a job. I don't think that's realistic."
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"I think the greatest threat domestically to the country is this $21 trillion debt hanging over the cloud of America and future generations," Schultz said. "The only way we're going to get out of that is we've got to grow the economy, in my view, 4 percent or greater. And then we have to go after entitlements."
We'll see what other public positions he chooses to take, but the early comments are encouraging.
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06-06-2018, 07:51 AM
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Schultz is demonstrating the fact that, by virtue of Republican hypocrisy, profligacy and insanity, that the Democrats have become the party of fiscal responsibility as well as responsible foreign and trade policies. Meanwhile, the GOP has become the party of conspiracy theories, lies and grifters. In short, by embracing Trumpism, the GOP has rendered any Democrat better than any Republican.
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06-06-2018, 09:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow
Schultz is demonstrating the fact that, by virtue of Republican hypocrisy, profligacy and insanity, that the Democrats have become the party of fiscal responsibility as well as responsible foreign and trade policies. Meanwhile, the GOP has become the party of conspiracy theories, lies and grifters. In short, by embracing Trumpism, the GOP has rendered any Democrat better than any Republican.
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His positioning himself as a fiscally responsible Democrat to make a run at their 2020 presidential nomination. I've seen no evidence to date the Democrats are fiscally responsible or that they have any intent to become so. If elected he won't have a snowflake's chance in hell of getting Congress to exercise fiscal responsibility. Bankruptcy might though.
Forgot to mention that the GOP hasn't been the party of fiscal responsibility since Ronnie.
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06-06-2018, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Schultz is demonstrating the fact that, by virtue of Republican hypocrisy, profligacy and insanity, that the Democrats have become the party of fiscal responsibility as well as responsible foreign and trade policies. Meanwhile, the GOP has become the party of conspiracy theories, lies and grifters. In short, by embracing Trumpism, the GOP has rendered any Democrat better than any Republican.
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So you'd go for Bernie over Kasich, huh?
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06-06-2018, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
So you'd go for Bernie over Kasich, huh?
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Actually, no. But at the moment, Kasich has little chance to win the nomination of the party of Trumpism. He's too reasonable and doesn't traffic in conspiracy theories.
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06-06-2018, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Actually, no. But at the moment, Kasich has little chance to win the nomination of the party of Trumpism. He's too reasonable and doesn't traffic in conspiracy theories.
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Thank God for that. As a Presidential candidate, Kasich is a fine Governor.
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06-06-2018, 01:48 PM
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Thank God for that. As a Presidential candidate, Kasich is a fine Governor.
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As I said, he doesn't throw enough red meat and traffic in conspiracy theories, both of which are critical for successful candidates in Trump's GOP. While I see these as attributes, you apparently see these as disqualifying.
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06-06-2018, 08:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
I could actually see myself voting for this guy if he's at all serious with these statements. Obviously, he's not confirmed he's running, but he could be on the 2020 ballot if the there's any truth to the speculation.
Anyway, here's some pull quotes from the interview that, IMHO, nail it.
Many leaders in the Democratic Party are veering too far left and overpromising government programs that are not fiscally possible, Howard Schultz told CNBC on Tuesday.
Without naming names, Schultz said in a "Squawk Box" interview: "It concerns me that so many voices within the Democratic Party are going so far to the left. I say to myself, 'How are we going to pay for these things,' in terms of things like single payer [and] people espousing the fact that the government is going to give everyone a job. I don't think that's realistic."
And....
"I think the greatest threat domestically to the country is this $21 trillion debt hanging over the cloud of America and future generations," Schultz said. "The only way we're going to get out of that is we've got to grow the economy, in my view, 4 percent or greater. And then we have to go after entitlements."
We'll see what other public positions he chooses to take, but the early comments are encouraging.
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"And then we have to go after entitlements."
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06-06-2018, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
"And then we have to go after entitlements."
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He's definitely lost the far left and the Rinos with that statement.
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06-06-2018, 10:31 AM
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Jigsawed
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Originally Posted by whell
He's definitely lost the far left and the Rinos with that statement.
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Not just far left, but also left of center.
Last edited by Dondilion; 06-06-2018 at 10:33 AM.
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