The press versus the president - Columbia Journalism Review

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by nailer

Nope, an organization is not an individual and allegations mean nothing at all. You continue to be clueless, but nevertheless highly amusing.

Are you hereby asserting the the Trump Organization was not convicted of multiple felonies? And allegations of Trump's tax fraud, bank fraud, election fraud, insurrection, and sexual assaults mean nothing at all? Maybe not to you, but that's a commentary on you, not Trump.

Oh, and welcome back to another Trump apologist. I need someone else to beat up on. 😜

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

And allegations of Trump's tax fraud, bank fraud, election fraud, insurrection, and sexual assaults mean nothing at all? Maybe not to you, but that's a commentary on you, not Trump.

Did the multiple claims of sexual assault against Bill Clinton mean anything to you, or were your comments about these women derisive?

Do the allegations surfacing in the media about the Biden family's involvement in potentially influence-pedaling and receiving payment from foreign governments mean nothing at all to you?

Do the lucrative payments that Hillary received for speaking engagements and other services prior to the 2016 election mean nothing to you at all?

Natalie Mayflower Sours Edwards is a hero to the left. She was convicted of illegally leaking suspicious activity reports (SAR's) which ended up getting published in Buzzfeed and elsewhere. SAR's are not an indication of a crime. Banks issue them when transactions "appear suspicious". When the Treasury receives SAR's from the banking community, less than 95% of them spark interest from law enforcement, but some do become leads that then become cases that go to trial.

Paul Manafort's tax cases what buttressed by SAR's, some of which were a part of the info that Natalie Mayflower Sours Edwards leaked. She was called a "whistle-blower" that was heroic in her efforts to expose financial crimes in the media. Of course, she didn't "blow any whistles" via any appropriate reporting process, and committed a crime by leaking what is considered very confidential info, but I guess that doesn't bother anyone in the media. Does it bother you?

Does it bother you that the Biden family businesses have been cited in about 150 SARs? Does it bother you that repeated requests for these SAR's by Congress have not been responded to by the Treasury Department?

Sounds like you think folks should be bothered by a lot of stuff. Wondering if any of this stuff bothers you? And if it doesn't, what does that say about you?

Just curious...?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Did the multiple claims of sexual assault against Bill Clinton mean anything to you, or were your comments about these women derisive? ...

Pro tip: Bill Clinton's guilt or innocence have no bearing whatsoever on Trump's.

That said, IIRC Clinton's "crime" was dissembling about whether a blowjob was sex. It seems rather quaint compared to Trump's plethora of crimes.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Pro tip: Bill Clinton's guilt or innocence have no bearing whatsoever on Trump's.

That said, IIRC Clinton's "crime" was dissembling about whether a blowjob was sex. It seems rather quaint compared to Trump's plethora of crimes.

Also, it was consensual sex. Donny raped more than one woman, and paid to cover up a consensual sex act. Huge difference, which our village idiot ignores.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Also, it was consensual sex. Donny raped more than one woman, and paid to cover up a consensual sex act. Huge difference, which our village idiot ignores.

By which Individual #1 was implicated in the 8 criminal counts for which his lawyer was convicted and served prison time.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Pro tip: Bill Clinton's guilt or innocence have no bearing whatsoever on Trump's.

Didn't say that it did. That's your attempt at a dodge, however. Not so great.

Originally Posted by finnbow

That said, IIRC Clinton's "crime" was dissembling about whether a blowjob was sex. It seems rather quaint compared to Trump's plethora of crimes.

Your use of the term "dissembling" as a descriptor to sanitize lying under oath is what's quaint.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Are you hereby asserting the the Trump Organization was not convicted of multiple felonies? And allegations of Trump's tax fraud, bank fraud, election fraud, insurrection, and sexual assaults mean nothing at all? Maybe not to you, but that's a commentary on you, not Trump.

Oh, and welcome back to another Trump apologist. I need someone else to beat up on. ��

I didn't say anything about the Trump Organization and am aware the organization has been convicted and found guilty of crimes. For what crimes has Donald Trump (the man) been charged, tried and convicted? Donald Trump - Trump Organization, see the difference?

Being beat with wet noodles?

Didn't vote for him, think he was a poor President and challenge you to find something I posted that says otherwise. Remember. context important.

Like I said, clueless.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by nailer

I didn't say anything about the Trump Organization and am aware the organization has been convicted and found guilty of crimes. For what crimes has Donald Trump (the man) been charged, tried and convicted? Donald Trump - Trump Organization, see the difference?

Being beat with wet noodles?

Didn't vote for him, think he was a poor President and challenge you to find something I posted that says otherwise. Remember. context important.

Like I said, clueless.

So say I am clueless.

DJT charged with a crime? Two actually unless impeachments don't count.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

So say I am clueless.

DJT charged with a crime? Two actually unless impeachments don't count.

While he was charged by the House, for the first impeachment the tried and not convicted by the Senate and as thus remained president. For the secon I don't recall the Senate every getting around to a trial.

If the C shoe fits maybe you should wear it.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Also, it was consensual sex. Donny raped more than one woman, and paid to cover up a consensual sex act. Huge difference, which our village idiot ignores.

Originally Posted by finnbow

By which Individual #1 was implicated in the 8 criminal counts for which his lawyer was convicted and served prison time.

Here we go again.

So, did Trump get convicted of rape or sexual assault and I missed it? When was the trial? Was he convicted on one count or multiple counts? Where did he serve time?

Please give me all the details on his trial, sentencing, and incarceration for sex-related crimes. Who were the witnesses for the prosecution? What specifically did they allege? How long did it take the jury to return with a verdict? Where was the trial held?

I can't wait!