"Draining The Swamp" The P*ssy Grabber's First 100 Days MAGA Thread!

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Do not be fooled by the lopsided electoral college result. Look at the popular vote. Hillary's performance was not so awful as every says today. Lots of those states were won by tiny margins. Hillary almost pulled it off, change year or no.

Hell, Interstate Crosscheck may have made the difference.

Hillary was up against Trump!

Her performance was awful.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Bullshit! Hillary was up against Trump.

Bullshit? You're a bit quick on the trigger there, Dondi. Let's look at the data:



In table, first three columns are the vote % received, by Clinton, Trump, and all others together. Fourth column is trump's margin of victory over Clinton. If column 3 exceeds column 4, column 5 shows the number of electoral votes potentially flipped if enough 'other' votes had gone to Clinton instead.

Make of it what you will. Mainly, I think this shows that Hillary was not an awful candidate, she was a competitive candidate. But she was ultimately defeated by her own negatives driving votes to third party candidates.

I stand by my claim that if all who didn't want Trump had voted for Hillary, we wouldn't have Trump.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Bullshit? You're a bit quick on the trigger there, Dondi. Let's look at the data:



In table, first three columns are the vote % received, by Clinton, Trump, and all others together. Fourth column is trump's margin of victory over Clinton. If column 3 exceeds column 4, column 5 shows the number of electoral votes potentially flipped if enough 'other' votes had gone to Clinton instead.

Make of it what you will. Mainly, I think this shows that Hillary was not an awful candidate, she was a competitive candidate. But she was ultimately defeated by her own negatives driving votes to third party candidates.

I stand by my claim that if all who didn't want Trump had voted for Hillary, we wouldn't have Trump.

Libertarians voting Democrat? Give me a break. You're assumptions and supporting analysis are flawed. Check out my response to your similar claim in Grumpy's thread for a reality check.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by nailer

Libertarians voting Democrat? Give me a break. You're assumptions and supporting analysis are flawed. Check out my response to your similar claim in Grumpy's thread for a reality check.

Assigning blame and guilt cleansing is the intent here, not logic or analysis.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Bullshit? You're a bit quick on the trigger there, Dondi. Let's look at the data:



In table, first three columns are the vote % received, by Clinton, Trump, and all others together. Fourth column is trump's margin of victory over Clinton. If column 3 exceeds column 4, column 5 shows the number of electoral votes potentially flipped if enough 'other' votes had gone to Clinton instead.

Make of it what you will. Mainly, I think this shows that Hillary was not an awful candidate, she was a competitive candidate. But she was ultimately defeated by her own negatives driving votes to third party candidates.

I stand by my claim that if all who didn't want Trump had voted for Hillary, we wouldn't have Trump.

The notion that all, or a majority even, of the other candidate votes would have gone to Hillary had it been only her and Trump on the ballot is patently absurd. If that had been the case here I believe I would have left the Presidential block blank.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

The notion that all, or a majority even, of the other candidate votes would have gone to Hillary had it been only her and Trump on the ballot is patently absurd. If that had been the case here I believe I would have left the Presidential block blank.

I missed that assumption. Absurd is a good description.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Bullshit? You're a bit quick on the trigger there, Dondi. Let's look at the data:



In table, first three columns are the vote % received, by Clinton, Trump, and all others together. Fourth column is trump's margin of victory over Clinton. If column 3 exceeds column 4, column 5 shows the number of electoral votes potentially flipped if enough 'other' votes had gone to Clinton instead.

Make of it what you will. Mainly, I think this shows that Hillary was not an awful candidate, she was a competitive candidate. But she was ultimately defeated by her own negatives driving votes to third party candidates.

I stand by my claim that if all who didn't want Trump had voted for Hillary, we wouldn't have Trump.

You have to recognize and account for the sort of candidate, Hell, the sort of human being, Trump is. It took an extremely weak and flawed candidate to led him get to within 150,000 votes out of the 125,000,000 votes cast.