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10-28-2011, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
Are you suggesting that a Democratic president would be just as likely as a Republican president to appoint an economically conservative, laissez faire justice?
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NO, but that's not the part of your quote that I was reacting to.
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
I don't deny that Democrats are close to being as invested in the system that favors the financial elites as the Republicans are, but just not quite as much.
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There it is again. The "Our guys suck, but your guys suck worse" defense. Of course Dems are thoroughly and completely "invested in the system." Top campaign contribution sources for our current Prez demonstrate that.
University of California $1,648,685
Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
Harvard University $878,164
Microsoft Corp $852,167
Google Inc $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Time Warner $624,618
Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
Stanford University $595,716
National Amusements Inc $563,798
WilmerHale LLP $550,668
Columbia University $547,852
Skadden, Arps et al $543,539
UBS AG $532,674
IBM Corp $532,372
General Electric $529,855
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295
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10-28-2011, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
NO, but that's not the part of your quote that I was reacting to.
There it is again. The "Our guys suck, but your guys suck worse" defense. Of course Dems are thoroughly and completely "invested in the system." Top campaign contribution sources for our current Prez demonstrate that.
University of California $1,648,685
Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
Harvard University $878,164
Microsoft Corp $852,167
Google Inc $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Time Warner $624,618
Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
Stanford University $595,716
National Amusements Inc $563,798
WilmerHale LLP $550,668
Columbia University $547,852
Skadden, Arps et al $543,539
UBS AG $532,674
IBM Corp $532,372
General Electric $529,855
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295
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If I was a GOOPer those numbers would give me pause.
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10-28-2011, 10:16 AM
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Finn, so the Bush machine that Sr built (on top of Reagans) elected Jr, and handed power to Cheney. Right.
Wgrr, how far back to you have to go to justify bombing Libya? Hilarious.
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The Fourteenth Amendment contained an equal protection clause designed to assure that freed slaves would be able to enjoy the full protection of the law afforded to their former owners. In the fifty years that followed it's passage, the vast majority of the equal protection challenges that made it to the Supreme Court involved involved corporations challenging economic regulations that states had enacted to curb corporate power. During those years, the SCOTUS heard two cases brought on behalf of racial minorities who had not received the equal protection of the law.
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It's a living document D. It just lived a direction you don't agree with!
Pete
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10-28-2011, 10:20 AM
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Living document? I think if you look closely you will see it was kicked to the curb long ago.
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10-28-2011, 10:21 AM
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Finn, so the Bush machine that Sr built (on top of Reagans) elected Jr, and handed power to Cheney. Right.
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Not exactly. Cheney simply took the power for himself (after he found himself as head of the VP search team) and Dubya was too dumb to know it. Decider-in-chief, indeed.
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10-28-2011, 10:41 AM
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Rob I was tongue in cheek. I agree with you.
Finn Cheney told me that the fishing was fun, and he'd like to invite you hunting
Pete
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10-28-2011, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
NO, but that's not the part of your quote that I was reacting to.
There it is again. The "Our guys suck, but your guys suck worse" defense. Of course Dems are thoroughly and completely "invested in the system." Top campaign contribution sources for our current Prez demonstrate that.
University of California $1,648,685
Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
Harvard University $878,164
Microsoft Corp $852,167
Google Inc $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Time Warner $624,618
Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
Stanford University $595,716
National Amusements Inc $563,798
WilmerHale LLP $550,668
Columbia University $547,852
Skadden, Arps et al $543,539
UBS AG $532,674
IBM Corp $532,372
General Electric $529,855
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295
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If you agree that a Democrat would be less likely to nominate a lassiez faire justice, then the relative extent of the investment in the financial elite becomes irrelevant. "Not quite as bad," while an unquestionably unsatisfactory result in the selection of a Supreme Court justice, nevertheless has some value in the context of a lifetime appointment.
Regards,
D-Ray
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10-28-2011, 04:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d-ray657
Are you suggesting that a Democratic president would be just as likely as a Republican president to appoint an economically conservative, laissez faire justice? I don't deny that Democrats are close to being as invested in the system that favors the financial elites as the Republicans are, but just not quite as much.
I will point out one judicial nomination that might support your point - Eisenhower appointed Earl Warren. I'm not quite sure Ike got what he thought he was getting.
Regards,
D-Ray
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What's wrong with appointing an economically conservative laissez faire justice?
I'll take one of those over a socialistic statist justice any day.
Chas
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10-28-2011, 05:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
NO, but that's not the part of your quote that I was reacting to.
There it is again. The "Our guys suck, but your guys suck worse" defense. Of course Dems are thoroughly and completely "invested in the system." Top campaign contribution sources for our current Prez demonstrate that.
University of California $1,648,685
Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
Harvard University $878,164
Microsoft Corp $852,167
Google Inc $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Time Warner $624,618
Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
Stanford University $595,716
National Amusements Inc $563,798
WilmerHale LLP $550,668
Columbia University $547,852
Skadden, Arps et al $543,539
UBS AG $532,674
IBM Corp $532,372
General Electric $529,855
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295
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After looking over your list, and seeing UC at the top for the tune of 1.6 mil, I have one question.
Why is a public university even allowed to make campaign contributions?
Ain't no wonder Little Johnnie is dumber than a day old pig, has a worthless degree, and 200K worth of student loans that he's never going to repay.
Someone needs to tell the little cretin that it wasn't the evil corporations that just busted it off in his ass.
Chas
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10-29-2011, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles
What's wrong with appointing an economically conservative laissez faire justice?
Chas
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Because they become delusional and think corporations are people and money=speech.
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