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05-04-2016, 07:44 AM
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To anyone interested, I recommend the documentary "Pandora's Promise," - clears away a lot of the hyperbole and provides a well done overview of nuclear energy options with some of the leading nuclear and environmental scientists/engineers.
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The non disposable byproducts have always been a major problem with "the power too cheap to meter".
No doubt Hyman Rickover expected a level of competence as high as his own from the civilian side, unintended consequences notwithstanding.
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05-04-2016, 01:31 PM
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The French seem to have a good handle on it - nuclear energy provides 75% of their electric power; they export around 3 billion Euros worth a year. They have constant gov. and scientific collaboration actively accelerating the recycling/reusability/waste storage processes.
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05-04-2016, 01:36 PM
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The French seem to have a good handle on it - nuclear energy provides 75% of their electric power; they export around 3 billion Euros worth a year. They have constant gov. and scientific collaboration actively accelerating the recycling/reusability/waste storage processes.
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From the OP.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/08/bu...rgy-areva.html
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The French seem to have a good handle on it - nuclear energy provides 75% of their electric power; they export around 3 billion Euros worth a year. They have constant gov. and scientific collaboration actively accelerating the recycling/reusability/waste storage processes.
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Nuclear is in the group...If it can go wrong , it will. However its wrong is mega.
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05-04-2016, 01:52 PM
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Nuclear is in the group...If it can go wrong , it will. However its wrong is mega.
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Perhaps so, but far more have been killed over the years due to the use of coal from mining accidents and respiratory disease. The environmental impact of coal hasn't been exactly benign either from mountain-top removal to rivers polluted from mine drainage to acid rain killing lakes hundreds of miles from power plants to dirty air. Unfortunately, there is no free lunch.
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Perhaps so, but far more have been killed over the years due to the use of coal from mining accidents and respiratory disease. The environmental impact of coal hasn't been exactly benign either from mountain-top removal to rivers polluted from mine drainage to acid rain killing lakes hundreds of miles from power plants to dirty air. Unfortunately, there is no free lunch.
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Another one that needs to go. You're on a roll, Pat.
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Another one that needs to go. You're on a roll, Pat.
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It's absolutely true. I'm not an absolute fan (nor foe) of nuclear power, but believe that at this point in time, it's still a viable component of the nation's power-generation capacity, as is coal, gas, wind, solar, hydropower and conservation. Other than conservation, all have a downside. Nuclear is low risk/high consequence whereas some other the others are high risk/low consequence. Pick your poison, as it were.
Your argument reminds me of criticism of the Green Party in Germany back about 35 years back. Roughly translated, it was that the Greens believed that their electricity came directly from the power receptacle (i.e., it was spontaneously generated in a pure fashion magically at the plug).
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It's absolutely true. I'm not an absolute fan (nor foe) of nuclear power, but believe that at this point in time, it's still a viable component of the nation's power-generation capacity, as is coal, gas, wind, solar, hydropower and conservation. Other than conservation, all have a downside. Nuclear is low risk/high consequence whereas some other the others are high risk/low consequence. Pick your poison, as it were.
Your argument reminds me of criticism of the Green Party in Germany back about 35 years back. Roughly translated, it was that the Greens believed that their electricity came directly from the power receptacle (i.e., it was spontaneously generated in a pure fashion magically at the plug).
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It doesn't??
Something some of the electric car proponents seem to believe.
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It doesn't??
Something some of the electric car proponents seem to believe.
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Electric cars powered by electricity from non-polluting, renewable sources. Electric cars by themselves aren't the solution but they're a part of it.
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