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06-19-2018, 11:59 PM
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More than half of Americans back impeachment if Trump pardons himself: poll
http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...-trump-pardons
58% of Americans would support impeaching his sorry ass, but only 31% of Repubes, even if he pardoned himself! They are just beyond disgusting.
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Which means 42% of all Americans are beyond disgusting from your POV. How disgusting is that?
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06-20-2018, 07:03 AM
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Had to google it. What a joke. Just like Whell. Not surprised it’s where he goes for his fake “news”.
The Daily Caller is a conservative American “news” and opinion website based in Washington, D.C. It was founded by political pundit Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney.
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06-20-2018, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Chicks
Had to google it. What a joke. Just like Whell. Not surprised it’s where he goes for his fake “news”.
The Daily Caller is a conservative American “news” and opinion website based in Washington, D.C. It was founded by political pundit Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney.
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The Daily Caller makes Fox News seem like objective journalism. Peruse for a moment all of their counterfactual "reporting" (i.e., propaganda).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Da...#Controversies
And Whell calls the WaPo and NYT "fake news?" Idjit.
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06-20-2018, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Chicks
Had to google it. What a joke. Just like Whell. Not surprised it’s where he goes for his fake “news”.
The Daily Caller is a conservative American “news” and opinion website based in Washington, D.C. It was founded by political pundit Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney.
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See post about about attempting to discredit the source rather than dealing with the facts presented. It's core to your debate style.
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06-20-2018, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Chicks
Had to google it. What a joke. Just like Whell. Not surprised it’s where he goes for his fake “news”.
The Daily Caller is a conservative American “news” and opinion website based in Washington, D.C. It was founded by political pundit Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney.
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Here's a source you two might like: Mother Jones:
https://www.motherjones.com/politics...ntral-america/
But the Obama administration hasn’t extended that caring attitude to another huge group of Central American migrant kids—those traveling with a parent or guardian, usually their mother. In fiscal 2014, according to data from US Customs and Border Protection, these so-called family unit apprehensions nearly quadrupled. By comparison, the increase in kids arriving at the border alone—the surge that put Capitol Hill in a crisis mode—was a relatively modest 77 percent.
In perhaps the biggest policy reversal since the surge began, the federal government has rebuilt the controversial family detention system it gutted only a few years ago, in no small part to send a message to would-be immigrants—even though 98 percent of those at one Texas detention facility were asylum seekers who claimed that they feared returning to their home countries, according to a recent report by the Women’s Refugee Commission and the Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service. “I certainly would’ve never expected it from this administration,” said the WRC’s Michelle Brané, who coauthored the report. “Why they went for this draconian detention, I just don’t get it.”
Detaining families indefinitely to "send a message" via a "policy change". Sounds just like Trump "sending a message".
Except that neither are true. What's true is what I posted earlier. The system itself is a mess. And both sides blaming doesn't fix anything.
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06-20-2018, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
Here's a source you two might like: Mother Jones:
https://www.motherjones.com/politics...ntral-america/
But the Obama administration hasn’t extended that caring attitude to another huge group of Central American migrant kids—those traveling with a parent or guardian, usually their mother. In fiscal 2014, according to data from US Customs and Border Protection, these so-called family unit apprehensions nearly quadrupled. By comparison, the increase in kids arriving at the border alone—the surge that put Capitol Hill in a crisis mode—was a relatively modest 77 percent.
In perhaps the biggest policy reversal since the surge began, the federal government has rebuilt the controversial family detention system it gutted only a few years ago, in no small part to send a message to would-be immigrants—even though 98 percent of those at one Texas detention facility were asylum seekers who claimed that they feared returning to their home countries, according to a recent report by the Women’s Refugee Commission and the Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service. “I certainly would’ve never expected it from this administration,” said the WRC’s Michelle Brané, who coauthored the report. “Why they went for this draconian detention, I just don’t get it.”
Detaining families indefinitely to "send a message" via a "policy change". Sounds just like Trump "sending a message".
Except that neither are true. What's true is what I posted earlier. The system itself is a mess. And both sides blaming doesn't fix anything.
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Uh, no. What you posted isn't true (and rarely is). Needless to say, the cited article doesn't say what you say it says (IOW, you resort again to lying). It says the Obama administration detained family units together, not that it separated children from their families in order to make hostages out of the children like your Dear Leader has done.
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06-20-2018, 08:04 AM
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Uh, no. What you posted isn't true (and rarely is). Needless to say, the cited article doesn't say what you say it says (IOW, you resort again to lying). It says the Obama administration detained family units together, not that it separated children from their families in order to make hostages out of the children like your Dear Leader has done.
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Uh, no. That's not what I said. Here let me help you:
Detaining families indefinitely to "send a message" via a "policy change". Sounds just like Trump "sending a message".
Except that neither are true. What's true is what I posted earlier. The system itself is a mess. And both sides blaming doesn't fix anything.
That's what I said. And since I had to post it twice, it certainly underscores your reading comprehension issues that I've observed in earlier posts.
What I also said is that the entire system is broken. Has been for years. That is undeniable. I've spoken with ICE agents and they're frustrated as well about the broken system that they're in. And while both sides play the blame game, the issues get worse.
I don't see any moral difference between holding families indefinitely at the border to "send a message", or separating families at the border to "send a message". Apparently you do, mostly because you think it gives you a way to make this a political issue. Its interesting that i don't recall you making an issue out of the indefinite detention of families when Barry was doing it, so I guess that's OK with you. Fine and dandy....
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06-20-2018, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
See post about about attempting to discredit the source rather than dealing with the facts presented. It's core to your debate style.
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Your source, The Daily Caller, discredits itself.
Nice slip up though.
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06-20-2018, 08:23 AM
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All these linking of obscure articles is a waste of time and is for deflection and whataboutism.
Why was there no outcry then from the media or the Republicans. Any pictures or videos?
Why is the GOP now so desperate to stop this policy through legislation?
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