The Biden Economy

[nailer]

Originally Posted by whell

Well, you and others have cheered Biden for refusing to negotiate or even meet with Repubs on the budget. Biden's position definitely puts default on the table.

No, it's the Republicans who are threatening default thus putting it on the table. It's something like parents beating their kids and saying, "look what you're making me do to you." BS blame shifting so to speak, and I have never cheered Biden for anything.

In addition, your point about the Dow in #427 is meaningless unless the Dow stocks are not in the S&P 500. Pretty sure they are.

[whell]

Originally Posted by nailer

No, it's the Republicans who are threating default thus putting it on the table. it's something like parents beating their kids and saying, "look what you're making me do to you." BS blame shifting so to speak, and I have never cheered Biden for anything.

No, sorry, that's the way the media is choosing to report it, and that's the media picking sides and "blame-shifting". Biden has assumed a negotiating position that leaves no alternative but to kick the can down the road as they've always done. He's just as responsible for the consequences of assuming that position as the Repubs are for trying to negotiate.

Originally Posted by nailer

In addition, your point about the Dow in #427 is meaningless unless the Dow stocks are not in the S&P 500. Pretty sure they are.

Not meaningless at all. Yes, the Dow stocks are represented in the S&P. However, in the context of 401(K)/mutual fund investment options (which was the context of my response), I can choose to invest in exchange-traded funds (ETF's). There are ETF options that are designed to track the performance of the Dow, or the S&P, or the NASDAQ, etc. The performance of an ETF mimicking, for example, the Dow versus one mimicking the S&P are going to be quite different.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

No, sorry, that's the way the media is choosing to report it, and that's the media picking sides and "blame-shifting"...

And you're an absolute sucker for pretty much every bad faith GOP action, argument or negotiation tactic without the requisite intelligence to understand how you're being manipulated.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

And you're an absolute sucker for pretty much every bad faith GOP action, argument or negotiation tactic without the requisite intelligence to understand how you're being manipulated.

And you're a sophist for specifically ignoring where I posted exactly the opposite of that. Here: let me help you before you once again get carried away by your own "facts". Here's the entire quote:

Originally Posted by whell

No, sorry, that's the way the media is choosing to report it, and that's the media picking sides and "blame-shifting". Biden has assumed a negotiating position that leaves no alternative but to kick the can down the road as they've always done. He's just as responsible for the consequences of assuming that position as the Repubs are for trying to negotiate.

The bolded part is the part you chose to leave out.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by whell

1.No, sorry, that's the way the media is choosing to report it, and that's the media picking sides and "blame-shifting". Biden has assumed a negotiating position that leaves no alternative but to kick the can down the road as they've always done. He's just as responsible for the consequences of assuming that position as the Repubs are for trying to negotiate.



2.Not meaningless at all. Yes, the Dow stocks are represented in the S&P. However, in the context of 401(K)/mutual fund investment options (which was the context of my response), I can choose to invest in exchange-traded funds (ETF's). There are ETF options that are designed to track the performance of the Dow, or the S&P, or the NASDAQ, etc. The performance of an ETF mimicking, for example, the Dow versus one mimicking the S&P are going to be quite different.

1) They "media" your refencing is meaningless given that it is not a single entity and is reporting both sides and more of the issue. But keep on selling you spin.

2) My point remains valid regardless of your additional deflecting incoherency.