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06-14-2017, 07:15 AM
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Steve Scalise Shot
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/14...ople-shot.html
House Majority Whip Steve Scalise was shot in the hip and at least one other aide was also hit in the chest by a gunman with a rifle who opened fire at a baseball practice in Virginia Wednesday morning, Fox News confirmed.
Police tweeted they "believed" the gunman was in custody. Sen. Mike Lee told Fox News, however, the gunman was dead. He said a staffer used a belt as a tourniquet to stop Scalise's bleeding.
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06-14-2017, 07:47 AM
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Very sad, but this is the inevitable result of letting virtually anyone stroll into a Walmart and walk out with a gun, a policy that Scalise and every Republican on that softball field strongly supports. This is the kind of America they claim to want - one where people can use "Second Amendment solutions" to solve intractable political problems.
In the words of Donald Trump (who Scalise strongly supports) - “Hillary wants to abolish — essentially abolish the Second Amendment. By the way, if she gets to pick, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know.”
Meanwhile, just this week, the GOP is trying to revoke laws prohibiting gun silencers. As a guy who doesn't support Second Amendment solutions, I find this shooting appalling. However, how can those who vocally support Second Amendment solutions be particularly upset when their recommendations are acted upon? Isn't this the America they want?
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06-14-2017, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Very sad, but this is the inevitable result of letting virtually anyone stroll into a Walmart and walk out with a gun, a policy that Scalise and every Republican on that softball field strongly supports. This is the kind of America they claim to want - one where people can use "Second Amendment solutions" to solve intractable political problems.
In the words of Donald Trump (who Scalise strongly supports) - “Hillary wants to abolish — essentially abolish the Second Amendment. By the way, if she gets to pick, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know.”
Meanwhile, just this week, the GOP is trying to revoke laws prohibiting gun silencers. As a guy who doesn't support Second Amendment solutions, I find this shooting appalling. However, how can those who vocally support Second Amendment solutions be particularly upset when their recommendations are acted upon? Isn't this the America they want?
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There you go again.
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06-14-2017, 08:20 AM
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There you go again.
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Yes, there he goes, making complete sense. Too bad your team has none, which means this sort of thing will continue, sadly.
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06-14-2017, 08:30 AM
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There you go again.
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I failed to mention that the GOP also recently voted on a measure to make it easier for the mentally ill to buy guns. Actions have consequences and making it easier for the mentally ill to buy guns while encouraging them to undertake "Second Amendment solutions" ain't exactly helpful.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-to-get-guns/
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06-14-2017, 09:53 AM
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I failed to mention that the GOP also recently voted on a measure to make it easier for the mentally ill to buy guns. Actions have consequences and making it easier for the mentally ill to buy guns while encouraging them to undertake "Second Amendment solutions" ain't exactly helpful.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-to-get-guns/
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So it is as easy for mentally ill as it is for terrorists to buy guns without any scrutiny.
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With Washington under complete Republican control, the gun lobby finds itself in an odd position: Without anything to fight against, which is what they usually do, they have to find something to fight for. So what did they come up with? How about making sure that people suffering from mental illnesses can still have access to firearms?
That’s what Republicans did Wednesday. A bill to undo an Obama administration regulation restricting gun access from certain mentally ill people had already passed the House, and Wednesday it passed the Senate.
One can certainly argue that this is utterly ludicrous. But there’s a larger issue at work here about one of America’s most powerful lobbies. Despite the fact that their allies are in power, this is actually not a uniformly good time for them.
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06-14-2017, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
I failed to mention that the GOP also recently voted on a measure to make it easier for the mentally ill to buy guns. Actions have consequences and making it easier for the mentally ill to buy guns while encouraging them to undertake "Second Amendment solutions" ain't exactly helpful.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-to-get-guns/
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Looks like some of your like-minded people have taken Twitter to celebrate, I see. You're truly a class(less) act, Finn.
https://news.grabien.com/story-left-...ng-rep-scalise
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06-14-2017, 10:00 AM
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Good point, we all know that only dumbasses use Twitter. Horrible. Disgusting.
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06-14-2017, 10:20 AM
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Spare me your faux outrage. Your party and your President have advocated for "Second Amendment solutions" as well as ensuring unimpeded access of the mentally ill or those on terrorist watch lists to firearms. It appears as though the shooter was indeed someone who took the idea of Second Amendment solutions seriously.
The man suspected of firing dozens of rounds into an Alexandria baseball field Wednesday morning has been identified by federal law enforcement officials as James T. Hodgkinson, 66, of Belleville, Ill.
A Facebook page belonging to a person with the same name includes pictures of the Democratic presidential candidate, Bernie Sanders, and rhetoric against President Trump, including a post that reads: “Trump is a Traitor. Trump Has Destroyed Our Democracy. It’s Time to Destroy Trump & Co.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...88f_story.html
Your President, his surrogates, his party and his captive news organizations (Fox News, Breitbart, InfoWars, NewsMax) have fostered a climate of fear and outrage, unlimited access to guns (including to the mentally ill and suspected terrorists), and Second Amendment solutions to political disagreements and are now outraged at the results of said policies??? Cry me a fucking river, Whell.
If you had a shred of intellectual honesty, you'd say "This is just the cost of doing business in the kind of America my party helped create." MAGA indeed.
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06-14-2017, 10:27 AM
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Get a life and look up the word rational. And while you are at it consider the fact that Scalise qualified for a security detail that ordinary citizens do not get. Saved his life but I am sure he will find someone to blame other than the NRA.
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