The FBI Raid and the Mar-a-Lago Documents

[Rajoo]

There is a report I read in Newsweek that there is pressure on Judge Thomas to recuse himself from the Trump Document Steal (the real TDS ). The case since it from the 11th Court of Appeala is automatically assigned to him for disposition. Argument use is the J6 insurrection and I fail to see how the two are related.

"Retweet this if you believe that Clarence Thomas should have recused himself from acting on the Trump case," tweeted NBC News presidential historian Michael Beschloss.

Lawyer Tristan Snell tweeted that "The Justice covering the 11th is... Clarence Thomas. So Thomas will hear a case that potentially implicates the January 6 insurrection plot that his wife may have participated in."

https://www.newsweek.com/clarence-th...o-case-1748978

[finnbow]

A top Justice Department official told former President Donald J. Trump’s lawyers in recent weeks that the department believed he had not returned all the documents he took when he left the White House, according to two people briefed on the matter.

The outreach from the official, Jay I. Bratt, who leads the department’s counterintelligence operations, is the most concrete indication yet that investigators remain skeptical that Mr. Trump has been fully cooperative in their efforts to recover documents the former president was supposed to have turned over to the National Archives at the end of his term...

The outreach from the department prompted a rift among Mr. Trump’s lawyers about how to respond, with one camp counseling a cooperative approach that would include bringing in an outside firm to conduct a further search for documents and another advising Mr. Trump to maintain a more combative posture. The more combative camp, the people briefed on the matter said, won out.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/06/u...s-lawyers.html

[Chicks]

In Trump White House, classified records routinely mishandled, aides say
The jumble of secret and not-secret documents found by the FBI was typical of how Donald Trump handled records, former staffers said
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ments-meadows/

Totally disorganized. Does anyone still wonder why virtually all of his businesses failed?

[finnbow]

Late last year, as the National Archives ratcheted up the pressure on former President Donald J. Trump to return boxes of records he had taken from the White House to his Mar-a-Lago club, he came up with an idea to resolve the looming showdown: cut a deal.

Mr. Trump, still determined to show he had been wronged by the F.B.I. investigation into his 2016 campaign’s ties to Russia, was angry with the National Archives and Records Administration for its unwillingness to hand over a batch of sensitive documents that he thought proved his claims.

In exchange for those documents, Mr. Trump told advisers, he would return to the National Archives the boxes of material he had taken to Mar-a-Lago, in Palm Beach, Fla.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/08/u...s-lawyers.html

The Art of the Steal.

[Pio1980]

On Trump's last day in office, why were sensitive documents allegedly in such disarray?
The DOJ said it couldn't tell which documents were classified.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=90989613
Security experts,
Is there a problem with chain-of-custody with the mishandled dox and their creliability as a result?

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

On Trump's last day in office, why were sensitive documents allegedly in such disarray?
The DOJ said it couldn't tell which documents were classified.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...ry?id=90989613
Security experts,
Is there a problem with chain-of-custody with the mishandled dox and their creliability as a result?

Chain of custody is hopeless as there's no telling who has had access to them. But all classified documents have originators who can verify their authenticity.

[BigElCat]

So Clarence Thomas personally has to power to clear Donald Trump of wrong doing in regard to the Mar-a-Lago raid.

I don't think anyone can doubt that this is what's going to happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbSokMWpskE

[donquixote99]

Other justices can intervene if they think a judge's emergency ruling is defective. There is no certainty as to how this will work out.

[Rajoo]

Now DJT is claiming that other presidents also mishandled documents.

Trump’s nonsensical riff on past presidents and classified documents

Appearing at a rally in Arizona on Sunday, Trump repeatedly compared his retention of presidential records to the actions of his predecessors. Except most of the examples he cited involved those presidents setting up presidential libraries. (And his other arguments were almost complete non sequiturs.)

He cited Barack Obama, George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton having their presidential records moved to warehouses as their libraries were being built. But that’s how the process works. And even if there were evidence that the records were handled improperly during those moves — which there isn’t — they were in the custody of the National Archives, as that agency noted when various Trump allies tried to compare Trump’s situation to Obama’s and again on Tuesday.

Why is the media calling this retention of presidential documents, this was a theft of classified documents.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...-bush-clinton/

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Now DJT is claiming that other presidents also mishandled documents.

Trump’s nonsensical riff on past presidents and classified documents



Why is the media calling this retention of presidential documents, this was a theft of classified documents.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...-bush-clinton/

Rump and Co. are trying to claim no foul because they weren't classified, drawing attention away from what he wasn't supposed to have in the first place. We can rightly call them classified when his sorry ass is convicted.